If Al Haymon is so bad.....

[Rocky Rode]

arum has never received the amount of hate al haymon gets......it's not even close and he's done things far worse than al haymon.

Yes he has. Were you even following boxing a few year ago when Top Rank was the biggest promoter in the business? All people did was bash Arum. He was easily the most hated person in boxing and rightfully so. Just like Haymon is right now

[Xi_]

****** post. The point is that Haymon is bad from a fan perspective, he prevents quality fights from being made for a number of reasons. from a fighters perspective he is a sign of an easy paycheck and career preservation.

bradley-chaves, pacquiao-algieri and marquez-alverado......all fights that have nothing to do with haymon, all three of the a-sides are p4p fighters, all three of them are the best fighers in they're stable and all three of them fight in the most stacked division in boxing. i know this thread is about haymon but if you don't have a critique for arum and this BS then you're bias.

[SeekDaGreat]

did we not get floyd-canelo, danny-matthysse, broner-maidana, brook-porter? are we not getting the GBP(al haymon stacked) card in december?

Those were def some highlights for Haymon, and yes, he does produce good fights from time to time.

[Xi_]

Yes he has. Were you even following boxing a few year ago when Top Rank was the biggest promoter in the business? All people did was bash Arum. He was easily the most hated person in boxing and rightfully so. Just like Haymon is right now

i've been following boxing for more than just a few years and arum got barely got any hate in the media or the boxing circuit until the floyd-pacquiao issue and even then he wasn't getting the most hate, it was floyd/gbp who got the most hate.

[Wolfie*]

I think that statement needs some reflection ..... Especially since this is a Professional sport. Athletes would be extremely foolish and negligent to only concern themselves with glory and or legacy, while their families go hungry or go without the necessities of life.

No one would expect a MLB\NBA\NHL\NFL Professional to do this, why is it expected of Boxers?

Dude, you act like they are getting $100 a fight. Shut up. They can live off their career earnings if they are smart about it. No professional athlete is going to be dirt poor where they are living on the streets. Get real.

[Wolfie*]

Fighters are turning down lucrative deals/offers to sign with Haymon......it's got to be more than just money, plus haymon's stable is one of the best if not the best in boxing, TONS of legacy fights to be fought under the haymon banner.

You don't think Haymon isn't promising them more money? You don't think he's giving them money under the table? He has a big stable but that doesn't mean he is in a hurry to make the big fights for their legacy.

[Sancho Puncho]

I guess it's only a matter of time, before fighters also get fed up with Haymon for not delivering fights they so desperately need. 2015 is a make it or break it year for Haymon and from what I could see he probably wouldn't make it.

[radioraheem]

If the fans are not getting the fight they want and deserve, that's bad for boxing.

I don't give a **** if it's Al Haymon, or Al Sharpton...that doesn't ****in matter.

A roster as talented and as large as Haymon's should be producing a lot more.

But since it's been made apparent it's all about the money and you get what you are force-fed. If you dig that, then that's on you.

That's why you gotta love when a fighter like Canelo comes aroun, and fights guys like Trout and Lara who no one knows, because believe it or not, some fighters fight for the passion of the sport, and to be the best.

Just not necessarily Al Haymons guys, by design.

Canelo didn't always fight the best competition. He's only been doing that in the last two years since the Austin Trout fight. But prior to that, he was being accused of taking easy matches.

And you talk about fans. The big fights where big profits are made happens through the casual fans. And the casual fans have no idea what they want. They just want to see something exciting, they don't even know the difference between the fighters. All they know is the names, the fame, the popularity.

[bojangles1987]

Because what makes him bad for the sport is great for fighters. Most fighters love huge paydays in low risk fights with gifted belts.

[radioraheem]

Haymons stable is ten fold bigger than the rest, he has the ability to give us more than one premiere fight a year.

He's been living off Mathysse-Garcia for over a year, and is finally throwing us a bone with Khan-Alrxander.

He needs to cut the bull **** and give the fans more, with all those boxers he manages.

He's milking all these guys at the fans expense. Half if them are hype jobs, but we would never know because that's the Haymon way.

This is also incorrect. Did you forget about Matthysse vs. Molina? Was that not an exciting fight? On paper it looked like trash, but it ended up being a fight of the year candidate.

Did you forget about Guerrero vs. Kamagai? Was that not an exciting fight? On paper it looked like trash, but it ended up being a fight of the year candidate. It wouldn't win fight of the year, but it was quite a surprising fight.

Garcia vs. Herrera also happened this year, which some or many of you say is a fight that Garcia lost!

You say Haymon has been living off Matthysse vs. Garcia, but yet you forget about Broner vs. Maidana. Right? A fight where Broner, the so called future of boxing, LOST.

What about Lara vs. Canelo? I bet you didn't realise Lara is under Haymon!

Matthysse, Molina, Guerrero, Garcia, Broner, Maidana, are all under Haymon. You guys complain and b*tch waaaay too much and only see nonsense you wanna see.