I think it's safe to say, Mayweather has probably the best defence in boxing history

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I think Pac fought about the same.

Definitely not. Especially when you look at when Pacquiao fought them. They had a knack for picking fighters coming off losses or a bad run; at lower points in their career.

[Kagami Taiga]

Since Floyd became a megastar with the ODLH fight, he has the best resume in boxing. I keep asking people to name 5 fighters who can make that claim. Only person who is even close to being arguable is probably Pacquiao.

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Oh u mean like when Floyd was going to jail when he fought cotto. Stop making excuses. A fighter's job is to be prepared. If he isn't, that's not an excuse. That's a failure.

Thanks for the laugh. The Cotto fight is the fight where Floyd and his fans said that he was being hit by Cotto so much because Floyd had the sniffles! Talk about excuses!

Floyd didn't do as much time as Diego was preparing for. Also, did Floyd come in severely weight drained? Like it or not, it all took a toll on Corrales.

Facts are facts are facts.

[Kagami Taiga]

Thanks for the laugh. The Cotto fight is the fight where Floyd and his fans said that he was being hit by Cotto so much because Floyd had the sniffles! Talk about excuses!

Floyd didn't do as much time as Diego was preparing for. Also, did Floyd come in severely weight drained? Like it or not, it all took a toll on Corrales.

Facts are facts are facts.

So basically u are saying u are just as big a hypocrite as Floyd and his "fans"? Excuses apply when u say they do to fit your agenda? It's truly sad to see grown men act like this.

[DeadLikeMe]

Thanks for the laugh. The Cotto fight is the fight where Floyd and his fans said that he was being hit by Cotto so much because Floyd had the sniffles! Talk about excuses!

Floyd didn't do as much time as Diego was preparing for. Also, did Floyd come in severely weight drained? Like it or not, it all took a toll on Corrales.

Facts are facts are facts.

Corrales was so drained he was still fighting at super feather three years later. Facts are facts, with or without boldface type and font changes.

[ADP02]

So basically u are saying u are just as big a hypocrite as Floyd and his "fans"? Excuses apply when u say they do to fit your agenda? It's truly sad to see grown men act like this.

Be careful what you are calling yourself as YOU are the one who brought that up. So I just pointed to what YOU said. So if you want to call yourself a hypocrite, by all means do so. Floyd and his fans like to do that ..... no problem.

Facts are facts are facts but Floyd fans trying to squirm their way away from that.

[ADP02]

Corrales was so drained he was still fighting at super feather three years later. Facts are facts, with or without boldface type and font changes.

Diego came back down because he had the opportunity to fight for a title, just like with Floyd.

Between Casamayor and Floyd, Diego was knocked down 8 times!!! That is what you call a beast? Not that version of Diego.


Diego is a tall guy for those weight divisions. He thought he can hang their and impose his size. It eventually caught up to him. Diego had the same weight issues when he moved up.

Most importantly is that we are discussing Floyd vs Diego, right? Well, in that fight, it was well documented that Corrales was severely weight drained .... So it doesn't matter what happened before or after.

You Floyd fans should stick with the facts. Even prior to the fight, it was stated that Floyd took advantage of the situation.

Corrales was sapped of energy ... came in 2lbs over at weigh in.


Corrales' lethargic appearance might have been because he was sapped of strength before the fight ever started. He weighed in two pounds over the 130-pound limit on Friday and was forced to sweat the extra baggage in a 90-minute sauna session.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...20-rafael3.htm


FACTS ARE FACTS!

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[Kagami Taiga]

Be careful what you are calling yourself as YOU are the one who brought that up. So I just pointed to what YOU said. So if you want to call yourself a hypocrite, by all means do so. Floyd and his fans like to do that ..... no problem.

Facts are facts are facts but Floyd fans trying to squirm their way away from that.

are u really that dense? or do u feel to grasp common sense. when u use one excuse for one fighter and then refuse to use that exact same excuse for another fighter, that makes u a hypocrite. facts are facts. its diego corrales' job to prepare for fights in to come in those fight with the right body and mind. same for floyd. same for every other fighter out there. if they lose said fight, there is no room for excuses. period. thats called sticking to a point. i never once made any excuses about floyd for the cotto fight. there's no room for that. u want to make excuses about a fight to suit your agenda, ok. but dont call yourself a boxing fan.

[ADP02]

are u really that dense? or do u feel to grasp common sense. when u use one excuse for one fighter and then refuse to use that exact same excuse for another fighter, that makes u a hypocrite. facts are facts. its diego corrales' job to prepare for fights in to come in those fight with the right body and mind. same for floyd. same for every other fighter out there. if they lose said fight, there is no room for excuses. period. thats called sticking to a point. i never once made any excuses about floyd for the cotto fight. there's no room for that. u want to make excuses about a fight to suit your agenda, ok. but dont call yourself a boxing fan.

Sorry but YOU are the one who is dense!

If a fighter is NOT at his best, you can only credit the opponent so much. Floyd gets credit for the win BUT unless you are dense, you need to factor in everything and I mean EVERYTHING!!! Still didn't get it? Hard to understand?Geez!

Now to make it even clearer for you, you and some other Floyd fans are saying that Diego was a beast and so on so Floyd deserves huge credit for that win. Also that it was one of Floyd's biggest wins.
Well, if this is what Floyd fans say then we need to discuss Diego and which Diego showed up at the time. If Diego was severely weight drained, that needs to be factored in. It is NOT an excuse but a FACT! Again, if you want to analyze truthfully and accurately then you must do it with all the facts not only those that support your heroes case!

Diego went on the scales 2lbs overweight and instead of rehydrating himself he had to drain himself for another 90 minutes. It's so, so easy to understand! Geez!


Facts are Facts are Facts!

[billeau2]

Dude, wtf are u talking about? Corrales was totally shut down by Floyd's defense. I'm guessing u have never seen a corrales fight prior to Floyd fighting him. Same for Castillo in the 2nd fight. And once again as stated above that a very small selection of fights to choose from. Every defensive great u can name had hard fights. And most of them were knocked out. Not styrene what u are arguing because it simply doesn't make sense.

Im showing that there are many ways to be a top defensive fighter. And yes...one can get hit occasionally and be considered a fighter with great defense, I went out of my way to say as much. It does not make sense to you because you have determined that defense is why Floyd was succesful...I question that premise. Yes Corrales is my bad...But you seem to think me saying that Floyd used other offensive measures to win his fights is a knock on Floyd getting hit and thats not my point at all.

Your confusion is understandable because its hard to create a criteria to address the pure defensive ability of a fighter.