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Do People Forget Cotto Calls The Shots Against Canelo?
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Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View PostI just proved it below you, and that was at the highest reported buy rate for Floyd and assuming every purchase was HD and $75 which they most certainly aren't. Showtime has lost money based on numbers, it's a fact. Let's assume they break even, if that why Showtime made the deal to just have Floyd on Showtime so they wouldn't make any money at all? Floyd owe's his daddies at Showtime you'll see by who he fights next.Last edited by The Big Dunn; 10-08-2014, 10:34 AM.
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Originally posted by Deevel916 View PostCotto vs Canelo in Vegas for Cinco de Mayo is bigger than them fighting at MSG for PR wknd.
I saw the cotto Martinez fight and MSG was off the richter scale. couldn't imagine that place with canelo on the other side.. The only plausible argument is that of ppv. I suspect Mexicans are buying in grooves on either date as will the Ricans. So either date I believe will work out just fine.
However, one thing is certain. If its on may 5 and up against a mayweather fight, then then PR weekend will be the bigger date as there wont be competition.
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Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View PostI just proved it below you, and that was at the highest reported buy rate for Floyd and assuming every purchase was HD and $75 which they most certainly aren't. Showtime has lost money based on numbers, it's a fact. Let's assume they break even, if that why Showtime made the deal to just have Floyd on Showtime so they wouldn't make any money at all? Floyd owe's his daddies at Showtime you'll see by who he fights next.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cbs-co...210100716.html
Cable Networks OIBDA for the third quarter of 2013 of $261 million rose 15% from $227 million for the same prior-year period, primarily because of revenue growth, which was partially offset by higher programming costs (including those associated with the pay-per-view boxing event as well as an increase from the licensing and airing of Showtime original series).
Perhaps you are wrong?
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Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View PostYou do realize that you're comparing a PPV amongst two of the biggest stars in boxing in the last 10-years (Cotto-Martinez) against a PPV with one if the highest stars presently (Canelo) and a virtually unknown boxer (Lara.) And the Cotto-Martinez PPV barely surpassed the Canelo one. Think about that.
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Originally posted by MDPopescuWhat evidence do you have that Floyd has delivered about 4.7 mil ppv's since May 2013?Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postppv sales reported-that's why I said about-the numbers from Mayhem have not been confirmed. I'm not counting 925k either.
If you review CBS quarterly earnings reports in 2013-Showtime has been profitable because of the increased subscriptions. Ray Donovan and Homeland surely contributed to the subscriptions more than Floyd. that said, each report notes the profit from ppv's.
I think its been proven that SHowtime is not losing money.
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Originally posted by MDPopescu View PostNow I'm feel relieved to find out that Ray Donovan and Homeland "helped" Floyd to make "4.7 mil ppv's since May 2013"... But what about dexter and Californication? Don't they count as well?
As much as many at NSB want this deal to be a failure, it surely hasn't been. If it were as BOA and other posters claim, showtime would have surely pulled the plug. They may do so soon, especially with th new Haymon/NBC deal.
My only point is tangible facts clearly indicate profit. If there are any facts that say otherwise-I haven't seen them.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostThe 2013 3rd qtr report below.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cbs-co...210100716.html
Cable Networks OIBDA for the third quarter of 2013 of $261 million rose 15% from $227 million for the same prior-year period, primarily because of revenue growth, which was partially offset by higher programming costs (including those associated with the pay-per-view boxing event as well as an increase from the licensing and airing of Showtime original series).
Perhaps you are wrong?
... Yeah, SHO was way up in the green in that quarter... No doubt...
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Originally posted by MDPopescu View PostAha... The SHO growth (series included) was about $34 million -- from which Floyd alone took $32 million, right?
... Yeah, SHO was way up in the green in that quarter... No doubt...
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