Do People Forget Cotto Calls The Shots Against Canelo?

[The Big Dunn]

You totally took him to school. But he will never put it to rest because he's on an endless journey to make negative comments when it comes to Mayweather. He does it all the time.

He totally said Showtime would do this, and Showtime would do that. And yet, Showtime is happily 4 fights into the 6 fight contract.

I realized that when he accused me of spin in the 1st response. All I asked is for him to produce something to support his position.

[BOXEO _]

Showtime lost a ton of money bringing on Floyd. Showtime boxing's future doesn't look good either. Thanks a lot Haymon.

[BOXEO _]

and yes, Cotto will call the shots once negotiations start

[MDPopescu]

And Showtime is made of what? Is made of Floyd's PPVs, right?...

Showtime Networks Inc. (SNI), (a wholly-owned subsidiary of CBS Corporation), owns and operates the premium television networks SHOWTIME®, THE MOVIE CHANNEL™ and FLIX®, as well as the multiplex channels SHOWTIME 2™, SHOWTIME® SHOWCASE, SHOWTIME EXTREME®, SHOWTIME BEYOND®, SHOWTIME NEXT®, SHOWTIME WOMEN®, SHOWTIME FAMILY ZONE® and THE MOVIE CHANNEL™ XTRA. SNI also offers SHOWTIME HD™, SHOWTIME 2 HD™, THE MOVIE CHANNEL HD™, SHOWTIME ON DEMAND®, THE MOVIE CHANNEL ON DEMAND™ and FLIX ON DEMAND®. SNI also manages Smithsonian Networks™, a joint venture between SNI and the Smithsonian Institution which recently launched SMITHSONIAN CHANNEL™. All SNI feeds provide enhanced sound using Dolby Digital 5.1. SNI markets and distributes sports and entertainment events for exhibition to subscribers on a pay-per-view basis through SHOWTIME PPV®.

[Beater_of_ass]

Look at Dunn and Raheem bringing up Showtime numbers and... Floyd doesn't even fight on Showtime. Dunn, you haven't proven anything except your lack of IQ once again, Showtime is making money overall because of subscriptions. However, they are losing money whenever Floyd does a PPV. I don't know how you can't get that small issue resolved in your brain, they are not the same thing. The NFL makes a sh*load of money off of Patriots games, there is a reason they black out the Jaguar games, because they lose money. Overall the NFL makes money but there are area's where their bottom line is affected, the Floyd situation is no different.

Again, Floyd fights on PPV not Showtime so why you bring up subscription numbers is irrelevant. I'm talking PPV buys and you keep saying "People are watching Showtime." When was Floyd's last Showtime fight? Really the only proof you need to know CBS/Showtime is losing money is them talking to a rival network about making a fight. Why would CBS want to split the profits they are RAKING in (supposedly) with NBC, because they are a good hearted corporation?

[MDPopescu]

Look at Dunn and Raheem bringing up Showtime numbers and... Floyd doesn't even fight on Showtime. Dunn, you haven't proven anything except your lack of IQ once again, Showtime is making overall because of subscriptions. However, they are losing money whenever Floyd does a PPV. I don't know how you can't get that small issue resolved in your brain, they are not the same thing. The NFL makes a sh*load of money off of Patriots games, there is a reason they black out the Jaguar games, because they lose money. Overall the NFL makes money but there are area's where their bottom line is affected, the Floyd situation is no different.

Again, Floyd fights on PPV not Showtime so why you bring up subscription numbers is irrelevant. I'm talking PPV buys and you keep saying "People are watching Showtime." When was Floyd's last Showtime fight? Really the only proof you need to know CBS/Showtime is losing money is them talking to a rival network about making a fight. Why would CBS want to split the profits they are RAKING in with NBC, because they are a good hearted corporation?

Floyd is aired specifically by SHOWTIME PPV®...

[Beater_of_ass]

I realized that when he accused me of spin in the 1st response. All I asked is for him to produce something to support his position.

I gave you math that you chose to ignore, your lack of IQ isn't my problem it is yours. We aren't arguing Showtime subscriptions (well apparently you are for some reason) I'm talking about PPV numbers so again I ask why do you bring up Showtime? The Showtime subscriptions do nothing for the PPV number so why would Floyd's buys (or lack thereof) have anything to do with Showtime subscription numbers? It's because you have nothing to refute that 2.5 million buys since June 2013 AT BEST makes Showtime/CBS owe Floyd 3 million without paying anyone else. Here is where I'll see "Showtime has all the subscriptions doe" and that somehow makes me wrong... HBO has more subscribers and gets higher ratings doe!!!! So Manny makes way more than Floyd it's just science bro.

[Beater_of_ass]

Floyd is aired specifically by SHOWTIME PPV®...

Which is fine, that has no bearing on showtime subscriptions. They lose money every time Floyd fights, they aren't losing money when Ray Donovan airs. That's about all Dunn has proven, that TV shows on Showtime don't cost them money.

[Dr Rumack]

Canelo must permit Bryan to fist him before, during, and after the fight. Miguel just watches.

[MDPopescu]

Which is fine, that has no bearing on showtime subscriptions. They lose money every time Floyd fights, they aren't losing money when Ray Donovan airs. That's about all Dunn has proven, that TV shows on Showtime don't cost them money.

... Ray Donovan and Homeland etc...