Comments Thread For: Frampton's Manager: No Rigondeaux, He Brings No Money

[LacedUp]

Now who is being a kid?? Win over Rigo is career defining accomplishment, get it? career!! that's not kid stuff. and who are we kidding really? is bantam weight, nobody care about the smaller division unless you win big like Donaire and Rigo or have multiple FOTY like Morales and Barerra.

is fine if Frampton want to pile up money and controversial wins at home like Chris john, nobody can force him to become an ATG.

16 thousand people in Belfast cared enough to absolutely pack out the arena which was built for the sole purpose of holding Frampton fights.

So I'd say plenty of people care. How many showed up for Rigo-Donaire?

[removed]

Nonsense

It's a sad reality when boxing fans don't care about fights to see who's best and rather care more about how much money their favourite fighter is making.

First of all,Framptons management arranges his fights

Second of all, Mcguigan isn't exactly being truthful in explaining the situation is he. Rigondeaux would clearly be one of his biggest money making fights. If he was to say "we're looking into the Quigg fight first as it's biggest possible payday out there" fine. But he's not, he's basically saying a Rigondeaux fight is not happening at all for invalid reasons.

Thirdly, your comparing a offer Hyde made over a year ago to Frampton who was a draw in Belfast with poor TV ratings to fight between Frampton who is now a title holder and Quigg now both of whom have had their stock significantly increase in the past year.

It's not that people don't understand the reality of the situation. Alas somehow it's idiotic to want to see the 2 best in the division fight each other. If the reality sucks don't expect people to be happy about it.

Ahh the old "Rigo will stink out the joint" excuse which you've kindly translated to mean he schools everyone in the division. What in the style match ups of Frampton-Quigg-SC would suggest "absolute war". Your absolutely exaggerating. Yeah "nobody wants to see a fight when you know which fighter will win" you have just described most Frampton-Quigg-LSC fights (who did Froch fight after Bute again?)
Now nobody cares except the nerds on NSB, as bad as his ratings were on HBO he still somehow managed to get 550,000 nerds from NSB to watch, far higher than Framptons TV numbers.
The only nerd on here is you with a picture of Froch and his missus in fancy dress as his profile- what a weirdo.

Froch is one of the most beloved & respected boxers in the game you absolute dunce.

Anyway, here's a jpg that's appropriate for you & your favorite fighter.

[kafkod]

It's not idiotic to want to see the fight, I never said that. It is idiotic to say it's more logical to go after Rigo than Quigg.

I also would love to see Frampton fight Rigo but it would be a crazy decision to go for it straight away.
Frampton is huge in Northern Ireland but still virtually unknown even to the rest of the UK.
A couple of successful defences against Quigg and maybe Santa Cruz would change that and make Frampton vs Rigo a much bigger fight than it would be right now.
If Frampton is still champion in 18 months time and still not fighting Rigo, then ok, accuse him of ducking. But it's waaaay to soon to make that call yet.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It's a sad reality when boxing fans don't care about fights to see who's best and rather care more about how much money their favourite fighter is making.

Oh that old chestnut. No one "cares" about how much money their favourite fighter is making. Some people just have their heads screwed on and realise that boxing is ultimately about that. I'd love to see Frampton-Rigo but I understand why it makes no commercial sense to happen right now.

And so should you and all the other impatient premature ejaculators on this forum.

[opotemo]

Isn't that exactly what I just said?

You ask any Frampton fan who they'd like to see him fight next, it would be Quigg. So it's 1) the fight his fans want to see 2) an all British showdown for millions 3) A much easier and probably better fight 4) massive coverage that would make him close to a household name all over Britain 5) a British UNIFICATION fight - the first big one in years and years.

The money is there for a Quigg, LSC, Mares fight because they have massive backing from American TV and Rigo doesn't. So yes, they would make him considerably more money. What McGuigan has said and which everyone else are saying is that you have to weigh the risk vs the rewards. In the case the massive risk of fighting Rigo does not match up well against the reward. Frampton isn't doing massive TV ratings just yet, he's fighting on a minor network - now his ratings might increase now but don't think it's changed massively from a year ago. His main support is the people of Northern Ireland, and they will have backed him this time last year also.

It's not idiotic to want to see the fight, I never said that. It is idiotic to say it's more logical to go after Rigo than Quigg.

Yes it's what you said, but people are responding to what Mcguigan is saying (the matchmaker) And what you are saying and Mcguigan are saying are 2 different things.

I never said the Quigg fight wasn't a bigger money easier fight. You might be exaggerating how big the fight is, it's not really a unification but it's a big fight none the less.We are still quite a way from seeing this fight as Frampton still has to take care of his mandatory first if he wants to keep his belt and the negotiations might end up being quite tricky for this fight.

The LSC fight is no given either as both him and Frampton seem reluctant to cross the pond and will be demanding a big chunk of cash to do so. Showtime haven't been forking over big money for Santa Cruz he's basically been fighting for 200k on under cards up until now.Showtime will probably fork out for tape delay coverage from Belfast and should - it's a good fight and a unification but there's no guarantee that will happen. Rigo will have American TV, maybe not Showtime or hbo but there will be coverage. Mcguigan is downplaying what Rigo brings to the table financially, there's a difference between risk/reward and saying Rigo brings nothing. The thing is Frampton wasn't doing good numbers when he was with Sky sports he always had a solid following in Belfast, but his stock has definitely increased in the last year. His live gate will be much bigger for his next fight ( probably Avalos) than it was over a year ago.

Well from a sporting point of view the most logical thing for the best to face the best, from a monetary point of view though it's not.

[opotemo]

Froch is one of the most beloved & respected boxers in the game you absolute dunce.

Anyway, here's a jpg that's appropriate for you & your favorite fighter.

Of course Froch is most beloved & respected boxers, he's fought great competition, one of best resumes in the game a true warrior - one of my favourite fighters. I was pointing out your massive contradictions in your statements.

[opotemo]

Oh that old chestnut. No one "cares" about how much money their favourite fighter is making. Some people just have their heads screwed on and realise that boxing is ultimately about that. I'd love to see Frampton-Rigo but I understand why it makes no commercial sense to happen right now.

And so should you and all the other impatient premature ejaculators on this forum.

The Quigg fight obviously makes more commercial sense to happen.
It's one thing to say Quigg fight first - it makes more money
And another to say 1 Rigo fight is a **** payday and 2 beating Him does nothing for his career - both obviously BS.

Don't worry I'll stay calm that Lopez Gamboa card is just round the corner

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The Quigg fight obviously makes more commercial sense to happen.
It's one thing to say Quigg fight first - it makes more money
And another to say 1 Rigo fight is a **** payday and 2 beating Him does nothing for his career - both obviously BS.

Don't worry I'll stay calm that Lopez Gamboa card is just round the corner

You can look at Lopez-Gamboa or you can look a little closer to home with Frampton-Quigg. Lots of people were calling for that fight at British/European level. Now they're both world champions (I know Quigg isn't really but for marketing purposes, he is). And the fight is much bigger.

Rigondeaux right now IS a **** payday for the magnitude of the fight. That should be a Super Fight where both men earn what they deserve.

[C-SHO]

Of course it would sell out the arena

Frampton has been selling out arenas fighting no names. Fighting Rigo would easily sell out. But the TV money wouldn't be nowhere near what they would be with Quigg, which is a potential PPV fight and the Rigo fight simply isn't.

Yes it would sell out because Frampton, Rigo would have nothing to do with it. If the fight happens I would think Frampton would make 80 % of the purse money if not more. Rigo will get mad thinking hes not being fairly compensated, than his fanboys will get confused because there always preaching about money not mattering.Rigo wants to be paid like a top fighter but nobody wants to pay to watch him.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yes it would sell out because Frampton, Rigo would have nothing to do with it. If the fight happens I would think Frampton would make 80 % of the purse money if not more.

I'd like to see what Rigo's people would say to that offer