Ortiz did not beat the count

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  • Gucci
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    #111
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Yeah if the count was 11.

    This isn't Spinal Tap.
    he was up, and ready to go!

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    • Johnny Rubber
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      #112
      Just rewatched the count and He didn't beat it. I counted 12 seconds from knee to rising, but He had already spat his mouthpiece out anyway, so its kind of a moot point.

      I thought Matthysse looked great from what we saw. Better defence, movement and a jab back in play. He also looked slimmer than usual, so they may have been working on his agility in general.

      Hard to judge at this stage.

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      • Johnny Rubber
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        #113
        Originally posted by Gucci
        he was up, and ready to go!
        Yeah, back to the dressing room.

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        • Dirk Diggler UK
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          #114
          Originally posted by Gucci
          he was up, and ready to go!
          Yeah he was up and ready to go......after the ten count had been administered.

          He was counted out. Doesn't matter a solitary *** if he was ready to go. He should have been ready to go earlier than 10 seconds.

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          • MPX309
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            #115
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            No. Because that would go against
            Doesn't matter if he could have continued or not. The clown didn't beat the count. And I'm almost certain that he packed it in intentionally.
            well the ref's fingers were on nine and he had both knees off the canvas, so. . . ?

            but as I say he didn't look like he wanted to continue, I'm not gonna argue over it.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Johnny Rubber
              Yeah, back to the dressing room.
              That's the way it goes: a guy gets floored; he takes off his shoes, his shorts and he spits off his mouthpiece... Then he gets up (at 9) and he's ready to go to the showers.

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #117
                Originally posted by MPX309
                well the ref's fingers were on nine and he had both knees off the canvas, so. . . ?

                but as I say he didn't look like he wanted to continue, I'm not gonna argue over it.
                His knee was still down when the ref said 9. He started rising mid-9. The ref waved and said "Diez" (10) as he was rising. Counted out in the act of rising.

                Oh I agree. He packed it in. There's been far too much debate already over this quitting bum. No one will ever hear from him again.

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                • HanzGruber
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                  #118
                  Wonder I Lucas tards still think he got thrown to the wolves lmao. Ortiz was no match

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                  • SplitSecond
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                    #119
                    i think most people dont realise that he has to be all the way up(not halfway) before the count reaches ten(you have to be completey upright, "before" ten)

                    ref said nine, he was still down, on his way up, before he way fully up, he was counted out, thus didn't beat the count

                    the second he was completely up, was the second the count hit 10

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                    • Accountoffline
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                      #120
                      Guy spat his gumshield out, indicating to me atleast other than he's winded that he was trying to bide more time.

                      Anyway the bottom line he Ortiz didn't want none, he came up from fighting bums to fighting a real top 3 in his division and got reminded quickly how he isn't in the same class and he found a way to quit before being badly hurt which would have been far more detrimental to his image as some big up and coming KO artist.

                      End of discussion.

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