Ortiz did not beat the count

[Russian Crushin]

Look at him. Pathetic.

No, whats pathetic is instead you 2 debating how your rule stands up to a challenge, you simply put "" and say im not.

Have nothing to say huh, lopez is off his legs according to you 2 fail after fail

[lebrick]

boxing better hire WWE refs next time. those refs are capable of not counting out down opponents in a nick of time..

[LouIE G]

No, just showing how your made up rule fails.

Your definition is "Standing. Up right. Soles of your feet on the canvas. Then you're on your legs"

Is josesito Lopez doing that? No, so your rule clearly contradicts itself and fails. The corrupt ref allowed him to fight while not on his legs (Knocked down). Im not sure if he should be DQ or ortiz for throwing punches at a man who is not on his legs

we can make a case that ortiz was up at 9, but the ref is making sure ortiz' head was clear therefore not paying attention to that split second he was rising before the ref waived it off... imo he was up at 9 but should have elected to get up at 8, it would have been an extra second or two he would have had to recover while the ref checks his gloves.

[Russian Crushin]

we can make a case that ortiz was up at 9, but the ref is making sure ortiz' head was clear therefore not paying attention to that split second he was rising before the ref waived it off... imo he was up at 9 but should have elected to get up at 8, it was a second he would have had to recover while the ref checks his gloves.

So maybe he should pay attention and learn to count next time

[LouIE G]

So maybe he should pay attention and learn to count next time

maybe just maybe.... refs have bad nights too.

[Showtime..]

I've always assumed that there is an unspoken rule that you get up by 8 at the latest and hold out your gloves/nod your head towards the ref's directions I'm the following few seconds before resuming.

It's a clean stoppage; you could see it on Roberto's face as well as his action

[LouIE G]

I've always assumed that there is an unspoken rule that you get up by 8 at the latest and hold out your gloves/nod your head towards the ref's directions I'm the following few seconds before resuming.

It's a clean stoppage; you could see it on Roberto's face as well as his action

why is hectari a troll??? he actually knows his ****

[Showtime..]

why is hectari a troll??? he actually knows his ****

He constantly undermines 2 Legends as if they're both shot Berto-caliber fighters.

How are you not a troll if you predict Rios via Jab?

I'm not saying Algieri isn't possibly going to cause Pacquiao problems, I'm just saying that there is no way PacMan loses to him.

[Russian Crushin]

maybe just maybe.... refs have bad nights too.

If not being able to count to 10 is having a bad night, then he should go back to pre K

Im all for taking complete power from refs, not sure why they have it anyway

[racer59]

Why are you quoting Marquis of Queensberry Rules? They arent used. Also, why cut off the entire rule



Looks to be on his legs to me

The first rule is" To be a fair stand-up boxing match in a 24-foot ring, or as near that size as practicable. "

They fought in 16 foot ring yesterday. These rules are from 1865 and are simply the first rules of modern boxing, not the the exact rules used

These are rules used as a reference since they are universally recognized. So to be exact, they fought in the state of Ohio. The Ohio State Athletic Commission is governed by the Association of Boxing Commissions. The ABC rules do not freely interpret the 10 second count. Therefore you defer to the MoQ rules. However the ABC rules clearly state:

"The boxer is considered to still be in a downed position when in the act of rising from a knockdown. "

So since he didn't complete the act of rising until he hit 10, he is counted out.