Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Seeks Criminal Investigation on Goossen

[Mr.Fantastic]

Chavez Jr was guarnteed at least 18 million in 3 fights if he signed with Top Rank for the GGG or Froch fight. 6 million guranteed a fight average, that's better than 99.99999% of all boxers and it wasn't good enough. These guys think there is a ton of money to go around and there simply isn't. Just like Ward it is called being an entitled b*tch and nothing more.

I have to agree with you on this.

Ward shouldn't be that high on the P4P list. It's a disrespect to the hard working boxers putting in WORK.

[-PBP-]

Chavez Jr was guarnteed at least 18 million in 3 fights if he signed with Top Rank for the GGG or Froch fight. 6 million guranteed a fight average, that's better than 99.99999% of all boxers and it wasn't good enough. These guys think there is a ton of money to go around and there simply isn't. Just like Ward it is called being an entitled b*tch and nothing more.

It's not about getting more than 99.99999% of other boxers its about getting what you're worth.

I'm not going to sell a Rolls Royce for $100K when I can get $250K for it just because $100K is still more than 99.9999% of all cars.

[Hougigo]

If Goosen is in fact guilty of something then he should move ahead with the lawsuit.

I'm actually interested. At this point it's a joke because he's been suing just to get out of his agreement, but this is something new. If this is baseless and he's just finding another way to get out... then sad

[Divine Hammer]

Where's the criminal investigation for Espinoza and also hayman??????

[Beater_of_ass]

It's not about getting more than 99.99999% of other boxers its about getting what you're worth.

I'm not going to sell a Rolls Royce for $100K when I can get $250K for it just because $100K is still more than 99.9999% of all cars.

Chavez isn't worth 6 million a fight... he was overpaid and still said no. It'd be like you turning down the 250k for the car because the other guy was going to paint it orange.

[SUBZER0ED]

It sounds like Ward's beef is about timely disclosure, rather than non-disclosure. If that's true, what does he hope to gain from all of this? What's Goossen going to get at the most, a slap on the wrist? Meanwhile Ward is ruining his own career. What a winner this guy's turning out to be!

[badass316]

With the money he has at his disposal you would think he'd be able to afford a decent adviser that can actually talk some sense into him.

[Inkanyamba]

Ward deserves his money that was unlawfully taken from him without his knowledge. I fully support Dre on this one.

[New England]

have you guys even seen roots?

[billeau2]

What a bunch of misrable cvnts. Its not like promoters have not, in the past taken advantage of fighters is it?

What is so awful about asking a promoter to buy out the contract? Ward is not a commodity he is a human being who depends on his own ability and he does not want to be promoted by Goosen... As a promoter what is in it for Goosen to force Ward's hand? I mean the guy has lost trust, so let him buy you out.

I mean its easy to yell at Ward but how would you like to be partners with people who you despised? I bet there are maybe...a few people here who even know what its like to own a lucrative venture where you put your ass in it and have to work with people you no longer value or trust....

Well if you know the feeling then you can understand that Ward has a point. Be the better man and put a worth on the contract and let the man go! Goosen is the prick here. All the people critisizing Ward should have the experience of working your ass off enriching people who you despise. Then if they feel the same they can yell at Ward.

Ward also has other problems alludded to: he is basically untouchable. Who can compete with him? Kessler my azz. Froch? yeah sure thing. This guy has beat the best and made it look easy. Too bad for the haters on that account truth hurts but the bottom line is Ward has little left to prove and has no obligation to enrich somoene who he does not want to, with his labor...its why contracts get bought out and how evil bastards like King, Arum and apparently Goosen are exposed.

I would love to put Witherspoon in a room with King and lots of sharp objects around. let Tim have at it...promoters are for teh most part bastards who do not give two ****s for the fighters they promote. King cast the die and Goosen is goos-stepin in synch with the tradition. If Arum King Goosen went to hell in a handbasket tomorrow boxing would be a better place....Schaefer also.