Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Seeks Criminal Investigation on Goossen

[Wicky]

And again, that is Ward's fault and no one elses. No one had a gun to his head when he signed the contract, if it was a bad deal it is no ones fault but his own for taking it. A co-worker asked my advice about buying a car mainly whether to go with a person or go to a dealer. I said always go with the dealer because they have a reputation to uphold, and if something is wrong with the car you can do something about it or get a warranty etc... They chose to buy one from some guy just selling his car for about $3,000 an older civic, he did this to avoid a car payment. He's put another 3k in to that car and it still doesn't work right. He got ****ed but its no ones fault but his own just like Andre Ward, who doesn't even have a bad deal. He made almost 4 times as much as GGG did in their last fights and he is still not satisfied, **** this guy.

I don’t disagree with most of that, but I do feel it’s a bit naive to say “if it was a bad deal it is no ones fault but his own for taking it”. Most boxers agree to terms early in their career that are unreasonably biased in favour of the promoter in the long term, because the fighter isn’t very established and therefore doesn’t have much to negotiate with. The problem with most contracts are that they are too lengthy. It breeds animosity later because the fighter is bound by a somewhat out of date contract.

It’s not black and white, so depends on the particulars of the given contract. But, do promoters misrepresent a fighters’ interests for personal gain. Fuhk yeah!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I don’t disagree with most of that, but I do feel it’s a bit naive to say “if it was a bad deal it is no ones fault but his own for taking it”. Most boxers agree to terms early in their career that are unreasonably biased in favour of the promoter in the long term, because the fighter isn’t very established and therefore doesn’t have much to negotiate with. The problem with most contracts are that they are too lengthy. It breeds animosity later because the fighter is bound by a somewhat out of date contract.

It’s not black and white, so depends on the particulars of the given contract. But, do promoters misrepresent a fighters’ interests for personal gain. Fuhk yeah!

Ward was an Olympic gold medalist that hadn't lost in years,, he had plenty of leverage for a guy turning pro..

And this isn't even about when he turned pro, just recently ward resigned with goossen... So if wards story about being ripped off since 2004 is true, why resign.. Either ward is lying or he is an idiot..

[Wicky]

Ward was an Olympic gold medalist that hadn't lost in years,, he had plenty of leverage for a guy turning pro..

And this isn't even about when he turned pro, just recently ward resigned with goossen... So if wards story about being ripped off since 2004 is true, why resign.. Either ward is lying or he is an idiot..

Yeah, it's a good point. Is Ward saying he was being ripped off (period), or is he saying that it has come to light that financial sums weren't disclosed properly in the correct timeframe? Whatever, I'm not really fighting Ward's corner, I'm just anti-greed from the promoters.

[Bachavelli]

i find it hilarous how regular people so freely call professional fighters "p.ussy" "coward" etc.. This is entertaining, the only people in the know as far as this issue is ward and goosen, yet people debate as if they have inside access to the case. I cant call it either way but for ward to go so far as to put his prime years on the shelf says this is something serious for him, and as far as goosen goes, if you have a fighter who doesnt want nothing to do with you why not just cut him loose, its hard to do business in a rotten environment, just shred the contract and let the man go. if ward is such a bum who cant sell tickets as so many say why is goosen holding on so tight to him. whenever you have money issues with someone that relationship cannot be fixed.

[STEELHEAD]

have you guys even seen roots?

kunta kinta mother frucker!

[$Bullsfam$]

He wants that Haymon money.....

He wants to get paid 2 milly to fight the Salsa's of the world.

[Bachavelli]

Tough to make fights for a boring, feather-fisted dirty boxer who demands over $2,000,000 and home advantage for every fight, especially if the nasty little prima donna is suing you.

i have never been bored watching ward fights, i mean the guy utterly destroys everybody, i cant remember the last round he lost, thats entertainment to me, but to each his own.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Yeah, it's a good point. Is Ward saying he was being ripped off (period), or is he saying that it has come to light that financial sums weren't disclosed properly in the correct timeframe? Whatever, I'm not really fighting Ward's corner, I'm just anti-greed from the promoters.

From what I have read he is seeking damages from 2004-2012.. That's nearly a decade with a promoter, that was supposedly ripping you off, yet he resigned.. And were is ward's advisor james prince at in all of this.. It wouldn't shock me if James prince is the one whispering in wards ears to sit out and and look to break the contract..
Prince is not a smart guy when it comes to guiding fighters.. He was also the one that told Floyd to turn down an HBO contract circa 2000ish, which set Floyd back about five years in his career

[Bachavelli]

Anything to duck Golovkin... pathetic.

who is golovkin ? The hbo hyped bum beating up substitute teachers?

[Bachavelli]

I can't wait for this guy to lose. He's bad for the sport.

Cant remember the last time he lost a round, keep waiting