Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Seeks Criminal Investigation on Goossen

[Yogi007]

I never thought I would lime Ward, but after the Super 6, I realized that he was actually a down to earth person. I hope he gets things taking care of, so he can get back into the right. His clock is ticking and he hasn't been fighting.

[Wicky]

Fvk you idiot.

Big words little man.

[Wicky]

Or Ward is just being a b*tch. He already tried suing him and lost, if he signed a bad contranct he should get a better lawyer. If he can't afford a lawyer then he is a fool, because he could have just paid said lawyer a cut from his fight purse. But... who cares because again he did this before and lost.

Let's say you're right: Ward's a b*tch. So? Rightly or wrongly he's still the main dude at Super-Middle. I don't like him much either... he's dull as fhuck. But, I want to see him get dismantled in the ring, not benchwarm because some promoter did a number on him. I want to see fighters fight, not argue like little girls. There are some greedy bstards in this game!

[Lou Cipher]

Why doesnt he just pray and let "God" handle it? Cant stand these people that give "God" praise for everything they earn then when things arent going their way "God" gets off scott free

[deanrw]

It's not about the money, it's about ownership. Both Arum & Goossen are examples of the greed endemic in the sport. A contract should be mutually agreeable in the short, medium & long term, for both sides. It should have sufficient get out clauses to EQUALLY benefit both sides in case of disagreement. The contract should facilitate an EASY split - a way to become uninvolved rather than a way for a promoter to own a fighter. At the point where a fighter is unable to fight, or legal proceedings are necessary, the contract has failed.

You get a promoter like Arum, who can put millions into building up a fighters career from scratch, only to see them say adios when once he gets them to the top? It does not work that way. It costs money to build a star

[Wicky]

You get a promoter like Arum, who can put millions into building up a fighters career from scratch, only to see them say adios when once he gets them to the top? It does not work that way. It costs money to build a star

Of course it does. I totally agree. that's why the contract should have sufficient time-restricted clauses that benefit both sides equally to account for that. The problem is that many promoters use that very argument to claim rights more or less in perpetuity, which is where the problems occur.

[Dle]

It's about enforcing the laws and acts.

It's legal ethics. Why have laws in name only when they're not enforced? Who would take them that serious if there's no penalty. Act means act!

[Cinci Champ]

ward better get back in the ring. I get that he is handling his business but not fighting is bad for all involved.

well goosen legally has to get him fights still so well see

[Beater_of_ass]

Let's say you're right: Ward's a b*tch. So? Rightly or wrongly he's still the main dude at Super-Middle. I don't like him much either... he's dull as fhuck. But, I want to see him get dismantled in the ring, not benchwarm because some promoter did a number on him. I want to see fighters fight, not argue like little girls. There are some greedy bstards in this game!

Obviously his promoter isn't one of them because he actually won the case already. Ward simply under no circumstance cannot handle being told that he is wrong, it really is as simple as that. And seriously what about Wards responsibility in all this? Kind of hard to promote a guy who refuses to move up in weight, refuses to leave his hometown and refuses to even 50/50 money against any opponent.

[Beater_of_ass]

Of course it does. I totally agree. that's why the contract should have sufficient time-restricted clauses that benefit both sides equally to account for that. The problem is that many promoters use that very argument to claim rights more or less in perpetuity, which is where the problems occur.

And again, that is Ward's fault and no one elses. No one had a gun to his head when he signed the contract, if it was a bad deal it is no ones fault but his own for taking it. A co-worker asked my advice about buying a car mainly whether to go with a person or go to a dealer. I said always go with the dealer because they have a reputation to uphold, and if something is wrong with the car you can do something about it or get a warranty etc... They chose to buy one from some guy just selling his car for about $3,000 an older civic, he did this to avoid a car payment. He's put another 3k in to that car and it still doesn't work right. He got ****ed but its no ones fault but his own just like Andre Ward, who doesn't even have a bad deal. He made almost 4 times as much as GGG did in their last fights and he is still not satisfied, **** this guy.