Rick Glaser: Canelo/Lara did 275-300k

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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #51
    Originally posted by TMTForever
    you mean african-american fighter!..floyd has surpassed tyson as african-american ppv leader. he's doing what tyson should have done, which is develop his own brand!
    Tyson did have a brand,,
    Much like how Floyd is branded by being undefeated best, mike's brand was "the baddest man on the planet"

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    • sicko
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      #52
      Originally posted by TMTForever
      you mean african-american fighter!..floyd has surpassed tyson as african-american ppv leader. he's doing what tyson should have done, which is develop his own brand!
      Well yeah a lot of them just so happen to be African American but Oscar is Mexican American as well so I am talking about AMERICAN FIGHTERS in GENERAL are the Biggest Draw in boxing FOR A REASON!

      It is the AMERICAN CASUAL FANS who boost boxing PPV Numbers not "OTHERS" as some like to believe.

      The way Canelo is being marketed is actually ALL WRONG, he already has the Mexican fans, you don't need to sell to them anymore, he must Learn English so he can start to grab the attention of American Fans. Pacquiao has reached them, when people like this is talking about you:


      ^This Boost PPV Buys and grabs the attention of Casual Americans, that is why Mayweather aline himself with people like this for a reason:


      Because that "KID" has 53 Million Twitter Followers so when he Tweets "Going To Be At The Mayweather Fight" it reaches a lot of people

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      • Da Machine
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        #53
        Meh. Rick Glaser reports way low on every number. I doubt this is true.

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        • sicko
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          #54
          Originally posted by way2strong
          that would be Froch ... this year so far that is ... Froch-Chavez jr outsells anything the fraud has to offer may3rd
          Not In America!

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          • way2strong
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            #55
            Originally posted by sicko
            Not In America!
            didn't know boxing only happened in America ... I'll remember this when the Gayweather-Khan fight takes place in the UK ... the numbers mean nothing since its not in murica

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            • sicko
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              #56
              Originally posted by way2strong
              didn't know boxing only happened in America ... I'll remember this when the Gayweather-Khan fight takes place in the UK ... the numbers mean nothing since its not in murica

              That is not the point, you are talking about PPV buys right? and the fight would likely be IN THE US and on HBO correct? So when they tally up the PPV Buys it would be US PPV Buys NOT UK Buys

              Even if Mayweather fight Khan in the UK Mayweather PPV Numbers IN THE US on Showtime is what will be counted

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                #57
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                In PPv it's all about the opponent... If your opponent isn't viewed as a big name or a threat then your numbers take a hit..

                Floyd vs ghost, Ortiz, Maidana, do roughly a million or less.. But give Floyd a marquee opponent like oscar, Shane, cotto, and you will have blockbuster numbers...

                Ali-Frazier 3 is gonna sell a lot better than Ali-young or lyles..
                Tyson vs seldon is gonna do less numbers than Tyson-Holyfield..

                PPv fights is a 2 sided equation, and if both sides are considered marquee then it will do big numbers.. Lara was not marquee
                Bingo.

                While one fighter might be able to bring a certain fanbase with them, the MATCHUP is what really matters. That's why Pac-Rios, Floyd-Ghost, or Canelo-Lara didnt sell huge #s. The matchups were meh, so then numbers ******.

                Not sure why people to understand this.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by way2strong
                  that would be Froch ... this year so far that is ... Froch-Chavez jr outsells anything the fraud has to offer may3rd
                  U really believe that ******ity? I hope so. So thatch can bump this when it doesn't happen

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                  • jose.sooto
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Check_hooks
                    Technically you could but the media is gonna be all over the world cup and the fight is gonna get marginalized. I was talking to my friends about it and they were all talking about the world cup. I said Canelo's fighting this weekend and they said against who? The World Cup did affect peoples awareness of this fight even happening.

                    Hardcore boxing fans knew Canelo was fighting Lara but Casuals are the ones who buy the majority of PPV's and they had soccer on their minds

                    And in a way the fact that the World Cup games were televised for free was a bad thing for the Canelo fight. People were more hyped for that and were like why would I pay to see a fight when what I really wanna see is this soccer match and I could spend that money on food and beer.
                    I seriously cannot believe your posts on this thread! This is the first time i ever see you posting something spot on and unbiased. Kudos to you man.

                    Guys, it's common sense that having a PPV fight on World Cup Final weekend is a bad idea. That plus Lara being virtually unkown to casuals are the cause of these alleged numbers.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by sicko
                      Well yeah a lot of them just so happen to be African American but Oscar is Mexican American as well so I am talking about AMERICAN FIGHTERS in GENERAL are the Biggest Draw in boxing FOR A REASON!

                      It is the AMERICAN CASUAL FANS who boost boxing PPV Numbers not "OTHERS" as some like to believe.

                      The way Canelo is being marketed is actually ALL WRONG, he already has the Mexican fans, you don't need to sell to them anymore, he must Learn English so he can start to grab the attention of American Fans. Pacquiao has reached them, when people like this is talking about you:


                      ^This Boost PPV Buys and grabs the attention of Casual Americans, that is why Mayweather aline himself with people like this for a reason:


                      Because that "KID" has 53 Million Twitter Followers so when he Tweets "Going To Be At The Mayweather Fight" it reaches a lot of people

                      ^^^^^^^^^
                      Good Post

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