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  • #31
    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
    Damnit I hope this is false. I'm gonna owe 250T... thats lower than the Angulo fight. Lol
    Lmao, your avatar is a picture of when Lara slipped? Find a picture where Canelo actually hurt Lara.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hougigo View Post


      It does look worse since he was part of one of the highest selling PPVs... but he hasn't had that breakthrough fight yet.... that'd be Cotto IMO...until then, they're in building mode
      I get that they are building him still, but if those numbers are legit, then he is going backwards... Angulo fight did better numbers, yet the Lara fight was the better fight, and it's not like angulo brought a bunch of fans,, the Mexicans that like angulo are the same ones that like canelo.. There really wasn't another fanbase to bring.. Canelo-Lara should have done at least what the angulo fight did if not more.. Doing 100k less than the angulo fight, is a bad sign, especially since canelo looked like a million bucks vs angulo.. Coming off a great showcase performance vs angulo, and then for the PPv numbers to go down in a legit big fight with Lara is not good.. I expected it would do about 400k

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      • #33
        how many buys did the fight against angulo do again?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
          Now explain to us how this affects PPV numbers.
          Maybe people had gatherings for those soccer matches with beer, food, and whatever other hootenanny. And since PPVs also tend to meant for gatherings, it might be too much to expect people to do it twice a day.
          Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 07-20-2014, 10:47 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::. View Post
            Wtf? What type of unwritten rule is this? If the times do not interfere with each other why wouldn't you? Not like you're paying for BOTH.
            Technically you could but the media is gonna be all over the world cup and the fight is gonna get marginalized. I was talking to my friends about it and they were all talking about the world cup. I said Canelo's fighting this weekend and they said against who? The World Cup did affect peoples awareness of this fight even happening.

            Hardcore boxing fans knew Canelo was fighting Lara but Casuals are the ones who buy the majority of PPV's and they had soccer on their minds

            And in a way the fact that the World Cup games were televised for free was a bad thing for the Canelo fight. People were more hyped for that and were like why would I pay to see a fight when what I really wanna see is this soccer match and I could spend that money on food and beer.

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            • #36
              With so much PPV's this is what its going to be like, even Floyd and Pac didn't hit 1 mill except Floyd vs Canelo.

              Also is Canelo even known in the US to casuals? One thing i noticed is Floyd and Pac are really in the fore-front of boxing it's not even close, without them i don't see boxing talked about. Floyd and Pac are the only boxers constantly talked about on espn and other big sports networks. They are on talk shows and alot of other sports stars and celebrities know and respect them. Floyd got alot of twitter followers for a boxer and Pac got over a mill and hes not even active like that.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by PorterIsFuture View Post
                Lmao, your avatar is a picture of when Lara slipped? Find a picture where Canelo actually hurt Lara.
                I lost a bet so I had to wear those. Canelo never hurt Lara...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  I get that they are building him still, but if those numbers are legit, then he is going backwards... Angulo fight did better numbers, yet the Lara fight was the better fight, and it's not like angulo brought a bunch of fans,, the Mexicans that like angulo are the same ones that like canelo.. There really wasn't another fanbase to bring.. Canelo-Lara should have done at least what the angulo fight did if not more.. Doing 100k less than the angulo fight, is a bad sign, especially since canelo looked like a million bucks vs angulo.. Coming off a great showcase performance vs angulo, and then for the PPv numbers to go down in a legit big fight with Lara is not good.. I expected it would do about 400k
                  Don't know how they expected this three fight PPV year to go... but it's averaging around the same number. They can't do this forever though.

                  The Kirkland fight will probably also be on PPV....don't know if he'll be back on regular Sho/HBO.

                  If they do do the Cotto fight next year.... that'll be the fight that determines his future... but honestly... even if he loses, they'd still put him on PPV.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    In PPv it's all about the opponent... If your opponent isn't viewed as a big name or a threat then your numbers take a hit..

                    Floyd vs ghost, Ortiz, Maidana, do roughly a million or less.. But give Floyd a marquee opponent like oscar, Shane, cotto, and you will have blockbuster numbers...

                    Ali-Frazier 3 is gonna sell a lot better than Ali-young or lyles..
                    Tyson vs seldon is gonna do less numbers than Tyson-Holyfield..

                    PPv fights is a 2 sided equation, and if both sides are considered marquee then it will do big numbers.. Lara was not marquee
                    Shut up Ali with all that damn sense you're making. That has no place on this site.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Joey_Torreo View Post
                      how many buys did the fight against angulo do again?
                      It was reported to do between 375k-410k

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