Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Jewish-Reptile]

Let's have it right.

Wlad was in the prime of his career. He took a beating and now the Klitschko fans are saying Wlad's age is the main factor.

It couldn't possibly be that Fury was the better fighter, or maybe even just the better fighter on the night! So there it is.

You think one Klitschko fan proves something? A post made today and not before the fight?

yes that guy was one of them.

Elroy, Weltschmerz, Freedom, you and many others have taken away from Fury's victory one way or the other.

These are funnily enough the same guys who said Klitschko would win with ease - Although Freedom did say otherwise.

The same bunch of guys who said "if by some miracle Fury wins, I'll bow down and call him the greatest" now pull the old Ali line.

"I lied!!"

Listening to your own rhetoric detracts from Fury's win.

I'm not sure whether you accept or understand that but I fathom you do considering what you have wrote here after yourself. I mean you'll sit here and bash guys for knocking Fury but you're also doing this yourself ! To what end I am unsure.

You were unwittingly undermining the victory before it even took place as far as I can see it, if anything you were one of the biggest culprits for this.

I'd like to reiterate what do any Klitschko supporters gain from detracting from Fury's win, that really is a question to all these guys you have incriminated in your above post. I know of one or two of them who were actually nervous in fact Fury may very well win, in open posts, the others and myself included brutally under rated Fury on his exploits to th date previous of his title shot. Sure I'm guilty of that but I've explained myself thoroughly and felt I represented a fair case for why I believed Fury was vastly out of his depth, was it any different to that of a known hero to many Klitschko detractors in Lennox Lewis himself ? I don't hear him being pulled from pillar to post for his analysis and pre fight break down.

As you say some Klitschko supporters are tearing down Fury's win still and I whole heartedly disagree with this, I'll admittingly never likely be a fan of Fury he just does not do it for me and the myth he was exciting with his in ring performances I feel has all been shattered in his victory over Klitschko in what is being roundly considered an uneventful fight considering the low punch output, clinching and grappling utilised by both opponents. The most damaging of trading being multi coming together with the head clashing which caused the wide gash on Klitschko's cheek the same cheek Fury really was unable to open further through his own unwillingness to open up himself and really go for it as he promised pre fight.

I stop there as I really feel I am beginning to detract from both of them and I honestly do not want that to be believed as my agenda here, as I've pointed out before Fury was the better man, wider than marginally but he did not do a great deal but clearly more than his opponent who offered precious little and can surely make a better contribution in the rematch, well that is the hope anyway. If Fury stylistically shuts Wlad down again I'll give him all the props in the world and allot him his due praise, it really all depends on which Wlad shows up, do I believe Wlad was so poor because Fury's tactics genuinely shut him down, partly yes but a lot of it rests on Klitschko himself, or so I would like to believe.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Is it too early for volume 2 of this thread? Loaded, you should make a fresh one after new year.

Keep this one going it is all the more impressive, and clearly overshadows the Canelo Cotto one with ease.

[juggernaut666]

Listening to your own rhetoric detracts from Fury's win.

I'm not sure whether you accept or understand that but I fathom you do considering what you have wrote here after yourself. I mean you'll sit here and bash guys for knocking Fury but you're also doing this yourself ! To what end I am unsure.

You were unwittingly undermining the victory before it even took place as far as I can see it, if anything you were one of the biggest culprits for this.

I'd like to reiterate what do any Klitschko supporters gain from detracting from Fury's win, that really is a question to all these guys you have incriminated in your above post. I know of one or two of them who were actually nervous in fact Fury may very well win, in open posts, the others and myself included brutally under rated Fury on his exploits to th date previous of his title shot. Sure I'm guilty of that but I've explained myself thoroughly and felt I represented a fair case for why I believed Fury was vastly out of his depth, was it any different to that of a known hero to many Klitschko detractors in Lennox Lewis himself ? I don't hear him being pulled from pillar to post for his analysis and pre fight break down.

As you say some Klitschko supporters are tearing down Fury's win still and I whole heartedly disagree with this, I'll admittingly never likely be a fan of Fury he just does not do it for me and the myth he was exciting with his in ring performances I feel has all been shattered in his victory over Klitschko in what is being roundly considered an uneventful fight considering the low punch output, clinching and grappling utilised by both opponents. The most damaging of trading being multi coming together with the head clashing which caused the wide gash on Klitschko's cheek the same cheek Fury really was unable to open further through his own unwillingness to open up himself and really go for it as he promised pre fight.

I stop there as I really feel I am beginning to detract from both of them and I honestly do not want that to be believed as my agenda here, as I've pointed out before Fury was the better man, wider than marginally but he did not do a great deal but clearly more than his opponent who offered precious little and can surely make a better contribution in the rematch, well that is the hope anyway. If Fury stylistically shuts Wlad down again I'll give him all the props in the world and allot him his due praise, it really all depends on which Wlad shows up, do I believe Wlad was so poor because Fury's tactics genuinely shut him down, partly yes but a lot of it rests on Klitschko himself, or so I would like to believe.

I wouldn't take much to heart that 'LACED" up..says to hold or have solid opinion,along with some true winners,this one including Wlad only winning ONE round...shows you cannot really have a legit fair debate here with him,when the two judges scored the fight correctly as many did in a close fight if you know what you are looking at ,hard to score fight that fury won.



To be the champion you have to beat him...anyone who thought Fury EASILY won this is simply wearing beer goggles and forgot how to actually score a fight when the champion is usiong effective aggressiveness.....either way the punch stats tell it was 115/113 fight...I don't even think Fury's shots l;anded much more than the FEW wlad threw so ,they can believe what they wish...the rematch will tell where both guys are actually.



"First time he meets a real man, he caves in, shows his true colours and is left looking like a stiff robotic contender" Lacedup

[Jewish-Reptile]

I wouldn't take much to heart that 'LACED" up..says to hold or have solid opinion,along with some true winners,this one including Wlad only winning ONE round...shows you cannot really have a legit fair debate here with him,when the two judges scored the fight correctly as many did in a close fight if you know what you are looking at ,hard to score fight that fury won.



To be the champion you have to beat him...anyone who thought Fury EASILY won this is simply wearing beer goggles and forgot how to actually score a fight when the champion is usiong effective aggressiveness.....either way the punch stats tell it was 115/113 fight...I don't even think Fury's shots l;anded much more than the FEW wlad threw so ,they can believe what they wish...the rematch will tell where both guys are actually.

I'm not getting into trivial personal arguments or mud slinging.

The second paragraph I agree whole heartedly. It was an exceptionally close fight and I would not even disagree with a 116-111 in favor of Fury with the point deduction, I think it was more like 115-112 though 8-4 rounds with the point deduction, I'm sure as early as the tenth it was clearly a Fury fight unless you were scoring certain rounds even. I don't are to over analyse it, I think Fury won and it was competitive throughout and the score cards may suggest he won comfortably I could agree with that in the point scoring sense but round by round it was exceptionally close and clearly neither man could switch off for a moment, had Fury one punch knockout concussive power he could have potentially had Wlad out of there when Wlad switched off in the instance where it looked like Wlad was waiting on the referee to intervene.

I enjoyed the fight, it was a tense affair throughout, again Fury deserved the nod clearly. I'm more so excited for the rematch as both I expect have a lot more to offer, although it was predicted it could be a stinker with their sizes, grappling clinching etc. I wouldn't call it a stinker but I never felt like anyone of them really got going.

The morons subscribing to Fury schooled Wlad I can not discuss with them, they embarrass themselves and are clearly swept away in a swathe of emotion either Fury won or more likely Klitschko lost. I notice we lost Bardock and Golovkin from the thread within a day or so with their credibility shot to shyt with some of their post fight claims.

[juggernaut666]

I'm not getting into trivial personal arguments or mud slinging.

The second paragraph I agree whole heartedly. It was an exceptionally close fight and I would not even disagree with a 116-111 in favor of Fury with the point deduction, I think it was more like 115-112 though 8-4 rounds with the point deduction, I'm sure as early as the tenth it was clearly a Fury fight unless you were scoring certain rounds even. I don't are to over analyse it, I think Fury won and it was competitive throughout and the score cards may suggest he won comfortably I could agree with that in the point scoring sense but round by round it was exceptionally close and clearly neither man could switch off for a moment, had Fury one punch knockout concussive power he could have potentially had Wlad out of there when Wlad switched off in the instance where it looked like Wlad was waiting on the referee to intervene.

I enjoyed the fight, it was a tense affair throughout, again Fury deserved the nod clearly. I'm more so excited for the rematch as both I expect have a lot more to offer, although it was predicted it could be a stinker with their sizes, grappling clinching etc. I wouldn't call it a stinker but I never felt like anyone of them really got going.

The morons subscribing to Fury schooled Wlad I can not discuss with them, they embarrass themselves and are clearly swept away in a swathe of emotion either Fury won or more likely Klitschko lost. I notice we lost Bardock and Golovkin from the thread within a day or so with their credibility shot to shyt with some of their post fight claims.

The 11th round was even with the point deduction...I had 5 rounds for Wlad...6 for Fury...1 even.

[Drunken Cat]

The 11th round was even with the point deduction...I had 5 rounds for Wlad...6 for Fury...1 even.

You must be joking.

Fury won almost every round.

[juggernaut666]

Point out how many rounds and exactly the specific ones Fury EASILY won again? You realize if a punch is thrown and misses or picked off it doesnt score right?Wllad won 3/4/5/12 thers 4 rounds right there at least withe 11 being even ....the rest are CLOSE as well

[billeau2]

Vlad won about as many rounds as punches he threw....sorry could not resist.

[juggernaut666]

I dont want to hear or read any discussion of either man in p4p -- sloppy and barely any technique. Even in slow motion its hard to tell whos landing the clean punches.

This is exactly true....most punches from fury did exactly miss and in most cases were just like your sigs...anyone who takes the time to actually see what landed from BOTH guys will see its a very close fight.

[juggernaut666]

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You must be joking.

Fury won almost every round.

Reposting this, however you must be joking if you really think it was a lopsided fight even Wlad winning only one round..you claim to even have seen it twice..most on here I believe have only seen it once based on some of the blown out of proportion descriptions on here I think they also had a few when they watched it....



By Jeff Powell For Mailonline

Published: 19:21 EST, 28 November 2015 | Updated: 22:45 EST, 28 November 2015




Tyson Fury ended the decade long reign of the great Wladimir Klitschko with a display of astonishing nerve and virtuosity – just as he said he would.

Despite clearly getting the better of the 39-year-old Ukranian the decision was never guaranteed with the fight taking place in Germany.

But the judges gave Fury the nod that he deserved with unanimous cards of 115-112 twice and 116-111, and he was leading throughout the fight on Sportsmail's Boxing correspondent Jeff Powell's scorecard - and he scored it 115-113 at the end in favour of the British fighter.


The Gypsy King took the first three rounds to take the fight away from the champion in his own backyard and put him on the back foot.

Fury answered the first bell by racing across the ring and had the best of the early exchanges, landing some exploratory left hooks. He also landed some jabs between feinting and making Klitschko miss and won the first round surprisingly comfortably.

The Briton was light on his feet and showed good hand speed to continue to better Klitschko.

The Ukranian came back to edge the fourth round and then landed his first big right of the fight to move back within touching distance.


Read more: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-333790

Powell had Wlad winning rounds 3/4/5/10/12/..with round 11 being even I had the same.where this fury dominated him entirely comes from is questionable,watching the fight again and LOOKING to see what exactly lands tells another story....HIGHLY. Fury won. Scoring this fight for Wlad with one round to 12 is the only joke on here as theres more than you on here that did that also which doesn't shock me either.

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