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Originally posted by sunny31
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Dude - get over it. No one is ripping down the career of Wlad, people just see him for what he is. I have defended Wlad on NSB as far back as 2006 when people were still not sold on him and fans were still calling him a chinless bum. From the low point of the first Brewster fight he has accomplished a hell of a lot, and he has done things that I think no one believed he could during that time. I knew deep down that he would come back and become a champion because I believed in his talent, did I think he could defend it 20 times? NO. But then slowly over time what happened to him and it happens all the time in sport, is that he has eventually become overrated. His hardcore fans are the biggest culprits, especially on here. They think he is some evolutionary force of nature that would have trounced every heavyweight of past era's based on him dominating inferior talent during a poor generation of heavyweights. Size and athleticism is all well and good, but it is far from the be all and end all in boxing. You guys act like there weren't big heavyweight contenders in past era's.
I have seen Klitschko fans try and make out that Corrie Sanders had more physical potential then any heavyweight in history. It's totally laughable, he had size, speed, and power so have a 1,000 heavyweights. At the same time you guys bash previous generations of heavyweights and the disrespect is appalling to fans like me who know there history, and more importantly know boxing. You know something? Wlad would have probably flattened some previous great heavyweights, he might have destroyed Joe Frazier, the size difference may have been too much for a backfoot boxer like Larry Holmes. That doesn't make him a better fighter or more skilful fighter.
Wladimir is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time I would have him in my top 20 personally, but he is the product of a poor generation. There is a chance that he will retire not having beaten 1 HOF fighter. At the end of the day you are judged on the competition you beat. His professionalism, consistency, and his ability to dominate average, good, and a few very good fighters is what makes him first ballot HOF. Even Tyson Fury, its hard to determine how good Fury is at the moment because his pages are still being written, but I can guarantee you (as a Brit) that he is not the second coming of Ali in a 6 9" body. He is a good big man, with good ability, nothing special.
If you weigh up Wladimir's strengths and weaknesses as a fighter, I think he made the absolute most he could out of his career, but what you guys need to realise is that those weaknesses and limitations have always been there and had he had better competition, they more than likely would have got exposed sooner and more often.
I have seen Klitschko fans try and make out that Corrie Sanders had more physical potential then any heavyweight in history. It's totally laughable, he had size, speed, and power so have a 1,000 heavyweights. At the same time you guys bash previous generations of heavyweights and the disrespect is appalling to fans like me who know there history, and more importantly know boxing. You know something? Wlad would have probably flattened some previous great heavyweights, he might have destroyed Joe Frazier, the size difference may have been too much for a backfoot boxer like Larry Holmes. That doesn't make him a better fighter or more skilful fighter.
Wladimir is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time I would have him in my top 20 personally, but he is the product of a poor generation. There is a chance that he will retire not having beaten 1 HOF fighter. At the end of the day you are judged on the competition you beat. His professionalism, consistency, and his ability to dominate average, good, and a few very good fighters is what makes him first ballot HOF. Even Tyson Fury, its hard to determine how good Fury is at the moment because his pages are still being written, but I can guarantee you (as a Brit) that he is not the second coming of Ali in a 6 9" body. He is a good big man, with good ability, nothing special.
If you weigh up Wladimir's strengths and weaknesses as a fighter, I think he made the absolute most he could out of his career, but what you guys need to realise is that those weaknesses and limitations have always been there and had he had better competition, they more than likely would have got exposed sooner and more often.
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