Comments Thread For: Lara's Co-Manager Eyes Canelo-Cotto Conspiracy

[BoxingLaw]

haha agreed!!!

[racostaa]

Did you read my post? I said Rios-Abril was a real robbery. That was disgusting. I still feel bad for Richar over that one. Canelo-Lara was nowhere near that wide. It was a close fight. I thought Lara won 115-113, but I can see why someone would score it for Canelo. It's not an exact science. Lara knew he had to fight more actively. If he didn't, then he was ******. He fucked up. Now he wants a second chance? Ha ha ha...okay, let's wake up there, Landy. You're going in there against the third most popular boxer in the world and you expect to get the benefit of the doubt in close rounds? Please. That's just foolish.

Robberies and bad decisions have been a part of this sport since the beginning. It's a great, big shit sandwich and everyone has had to take a bite, not just Cubans. In fact, Cubans have been the beneficiaries of robberies themselves. Ever see Casamayor-Santa Cruz? Lara needs to grow up and get over it. He's not the first nor the last to suffer a bad decision (if you happen to think he won). Lara got paid well and he wants another big payday. I understand that. But he's gonna have to get back in line and earn it by fighting in a way that sells. The guy's a boring fighter, man. He's fortunate Alvarez gave him a shot in the first place. I've gotten tired real fast with Lara's "the world owes me something" attitude.

Again compatriot, you see the injustice and accept it. I see it and fight the injustice. No way Canelo had the points Levi Martinez scored. Both, Canelo and Lara didn't make a good fight and between both Lara scored more in more rounds. My opinion is that whenever he had a chance he should continue saying the injustice. Why close the mouth on this injustice?. Why make so easy to they?. Are they able to do whatever they want to do and others had to stay humble?. No man, he is right saying this. Not only me saw this as an injustice. And this is good for the future Cubans coming to fight if not they will do whatever to they.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Okay dude... First of all Pac-Bradley 1 was a Top Rank fight and undoubtedly one of the top 5 biggest robberies OF ALL TIME! So don't say that Martinez goes by the book on a TR card when it that's a bunch of crap! Sure his card was off pretty bad, but there are a lot of worse robberies than that which have been done and locked away already. Now if he woulda scored it like 120-108 that would have been suspect for some investigation right there. Sure you got screwed against PW, those judges got what they deserved in the end though but now Team Lara is just getting ****** and he's gonna lose a lot of fans if he ain't careful. I've always liked and supported Lara but I frickin' hate whiners PERIOD!... If you lose then take your loss like a man, PW was cause to create an uproar, not your fight against Nelo.... Suck it up Lara and put your team in check...

Amen. The P Willie fight was disgraceful. I wrote a letter to the NJSAC complaining about that one. Just like I wrote to the NSAC when they robbed Abril. Pac-Bradley was another outrage. But this? Gimme a fucking break. Yeah, we can shoot the shit over this thing as fans for a while because that's what fans do. lol But Lara and his team need to put a cap on this real, real soon. I had some sympathy immediately following the decision, but it's worn thin real quick.

[-PBP-]

While Levi Martinez scorecard was awful, Lara still could have done more. Even if he still lost. He could of swayed more fan and press row scorecards and actually had a basis to scream robbery.

While boxing is corrupt, the fans and the media do an excellent job at identifying robberies when they happen and getting the victims of these robberies right back in title fights immediately after. For example, Abril was robbed and immediately became mandatory and won his first world title.

The thing about Lara, win or lose this will be the biggest fight and the biggest payday of his career. So he's not worse off by any means versus if he had gotten the nod.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Again compatriot, you see the injustice and accept it. I see it and fight the injustice. No way Canelo had the points Levi Martinez scored. Both, Canelo and Lara didn't make a good fight and between both Lara scored more in more rounds. My opinion is that whenever he had a chance he should continue saying the injustice. Why close the mouth on this injustice?. Why make so easy to they?. Are they able to do whatever they want to do and others had to stay humble?. No man, he is right saying this. Not only me saw this as an injustice. And this is good for the future Cubans coming to fight if not they will do whatever to they.

I don't accept injustices. As I said, I wrote to the NJSAC when Lara was robbed against Williams, and I wrote to the NSAC when Abril was robbed against Rios. How many fans do you know do that? Trust me, I'm not the kind of guy that sits there and does nothing about things that concern me. I can tell you Lara and his team have a lot more motivation here than simple "justice." They want another big payday with the Mexican cash cow.

You seem to be under the common delusion that your view is the only way something can be interpreted. I told you, I scored the fight for Lara, but I'm not so naive, close-minded or arrogant as to think my judgement is perfect, or better than everyone else's. There are men here, whose opinion I respect, that think Canelo won by the same margin I thought Lara won. I understand that people see things a little differently. There were close rounds in that fight, and part of Lara's failure was leaving too much doubt.

What sucks is that Lara was quite capable of winning this fight very clearly. He might've won if he was just a little more active, if he had thrown some more punches. But Lara fought like he was counting: "There's one, two for me, and one for him." You can't win big, close fights like that, man. This is pro boxing; and Lara is so thick that he hasn't learned that yet, despite being robbed and drawing on a couple of occasions. There's an old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." Lara's a fool.

[cabalas]

Statistics of the Molina-Lara fight (for Lara's fans and managers/promoters)

Total Punches 142-103 and Power Punches 115-65 all in favor of Molina (Lara won in Jabs 38-27). How come none of the fans/Mgrs. of Lara cried for 3 days arguing than Molina landed more total punches [39]? (and not only 10 more punches as it happens in Lara vs. Alvarez and if we see the power punches the difference is even greater [50]) And how come none of those Lara fans were opening lots of messages asking for a rematch between Molina and Lara? This is why I called double standard on the part of Lara's followers/Mgrs. Hypocrites!!!

[Doctor_Tenma]

I don't accept injustices. As I said, I wrote to the NJSAC when Lara was robbed against Williams, and I wrote to the NSAC when Abril was robbed against Rios. How many fans do you know do that? Trust me, I'm not the kind of guy that sits there and does nothing about things that concern me. I can tell you Lara and his team have a lot more motivation here than simple "justice." They want another big payday with the Mexican cash cow.

You seem to be under the common delusion that your view is the only way something can be interpreted. I told you, I scored the fight for Lara, but I'm not so naive, close-minded or arrogant as to think my judgement is perfect, or better than everyone else's. There are men here, whose opinion I respect, that think Canelo won by the same margin I thought Lara won. I understand that people see things a little differently. There were close rounds in that fight, and part of Lara's failure was leaving too much doubt.

What sucks is that Lara was quite capable of winning this fight very clearly. He might've won if he was just a little more active, if he had thrown some more punches. But Lara fought like he was counting: "There's one, two for me, and one for him." You can't win big, close fights like that, man. This is pro boxing; and Lara is so thick that he hasn't learned that yet, despite being robbed and drawing on a couple of occasions. There's an old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." Lara's a fool.

The bold, that's what pisses me the fuck off, like it's one of those kids Karate tournaments. It has me like,

[cabalas]

And because some here are against all type of injustice on boxing, statistics of the Molina-Kirkland fight

Total Punches 151-102 and Power Punches 138-90 all in favor of Molina (and even jabs 13-12 in favor of Molina). And if I remember correctly the DQ of Molina came just because one of the seconds set a foot in the ring (believing the bell rang) and immediately tried to leave, while in the fight Mayweather vs Judah it was a clear invasion and attempt on R. Mayweather to choke Judah followed by a big caos and the NAC didn't DQ Floyd. This is the world of boxing and nobody claims that justice is only applied when is convenient.

[parrish duke]

I don't accept injustices. As I said, I wrote to the NJSAC when Lara was robbed against Williams, and I wrote to the NSAC when Abril was robbed against Rios. How many fans do you know do that? Trust me, I'm not the kind of guy that sits there and does nothing about things that concern me. I can tell you Lara and his team have a lot more motivation here than simple "justice." They want another big payday with the Mexican cash cow.

You seem to be under the common delusion that your view is the only way something can be interpreted. I told you, I scored the fight for Lara, but I'm not so naive, close-minded or arrogant as to think my judgement is perfect, or better than everyone else's. There are men here, whose opinion I respect, that think Canelo won by the same margin I thought Lara won. I understand that people see things a little differently. There were close rounds in that fight, and part of Lara's failure was leaving too much doubt.

What sucks is that Lara was quite capable of winning this fight very clearly. He might've won if he was just a little more active, if he had thrown some more punches. But Lara fought like he was counting: "There's one, two for me, and one for him." You can't win big, close fights like that, man. This is pro boxing; and Lara is so thick that he hasn't learned that yet, despite being robbed and drawing on a couple of occasions. There's an old saying, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." Lara's a fool.

So right with this poat, he fought like an Amateur, he did not seize it like Rigo did, he fought to stay ahead not to win without a doubt. He ran, he did not make Canelo miss and make him pay, hw fought like Andre Dirrell against Carl Froch, and to make matters worst it looked like he was running from the body shots, he looked like a good amateur fighter, he needs to understand the pro game a little more - there is $ involved now, not medals - to beat a $ bringer you have to BEAT them, not beat them, the fight could have gone either way, the score of 117 - 1

[CubanGuyNYC]

The bold, that's what pisses me the fuck off, like it's one of those kids Karate tournaments. It has me like,

I like Kat Williams. lol

You can't beat the system. What Lara ought to be doing is getting it into his thick head that it's time for a new approach. You've gotta give the fans and pro judges what they want. You're going to cut off your nose to spite your face? Be my guest....