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  • elgu
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    #41
    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
    Mri has nothing to do with bones. The doctors determined that his knees were fine, they didnt say that his knees were ok put he couldnt put weight in them. The fact is Martinez has been on a steady decline since the second Williams fight. Since the Macklin fight Martinez' movement began to look more stiff in his lower body, he hasnt been bending his knees for his last 4 fights. Martinez was unprepared for this fight, got hit and couldnt recover. He no looked no different then his last 4 fights and I know because i have watched all 4 since last night. The major difference i saw was were Cotto positioned in himeself and Martinez' lack of timing.
    Given that you do admit Martinez was declining and that he couldn't put weight behind his punches or bending his knees properly, how much credit do you give Cotto for this victory? Do you think he should be consider the man at middleweight over GGG?

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    • jcj0427
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      #42
      Originally posted by assiong
      You probably never lace a pair of boxing gloves if that is the way you see how it went down. He got hit on the head several times, he got hit on the temple couple of times, he always get hit with that left hook on the side of his head. How can you stand firmly with a messed up equilibrium? Those short compact left hook that Cotto landed on Sergio's head did the damage not because his knees are not 100%. Give it a rest. Sergio got beat and admitted he lost fair and square, why can't you accept that? He was the one who suffered a broken nose and concussion not you, so how can you continually argue while Sergio said it himself it was that punch in the 1st round that did the damage?
      I actually have laced em up before but we cant prove that over a forum, lol. And because I boxed, I know that when you get hit you use your knees and legs to eat the punches and to stabilize your position. When your clocked badly its the legs that go out first and it was the root cause we saw Sergio getting destroyed in there. You do know that right? Sergios been tagged bigger and stronger punchers in the middleweight division before and has fought back and now all of sudden Cotto coming up in weight in his gonna dent him that badly?? Everytime hes been knocked down hes come back fighting and with Cotto it wasn't happening because he was physically uncapable of doing it. I counted one 3 punch combination he threw the whole night. One. Sergio is not gonna make any excuses cause hes all class.

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        #43
        Originally posted by mathed
        Sounds like they are covering something up. Dude clearly was on shot legs but I guess they want to avoid that since they kept saying they were 100%. Cotto was a monster in there but that wasn't the Sergio that I knew in there last night. I guess it's better to take the high road though, nothing wrong with that.
        Shut up and take the loss like a man you lame punk.

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        • KnickTillDeaTh
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          #44
          Originally posted by elgu
          In his last 4 fights Martinez wasn't falling or stumbling around like a baby giraffe. He could also sit down on his punches and land with power. Just out of curiosity how do you think Cotto would do against GGG, Canelo or Floyd in a rematch? I want to see how biased you are.
          Lmao Biased? reality is not bias. suggesting a fighter was hurt or spent when all evidence points to the contrary is biased my friend. Mayweather is in my estimation the best boxer on the planet, he wins a very close decision in a rematch, would not be surprised if Cotto wins by TKO. Cotto defeats Canelo, Canelo is not mobile, hes flat and slow footed, a well trained Cotto would win. GGG May be to big, but he has not faced a fighter of Cotto's caliber and we can assume that Cotto has carried his power to middle weight is actually the most interesting fight out of the three.

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            #45
            I don't care what Martinez says, the pictures don't lie and we are not all blind.

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              #46
              Cotto can box and he can brawl, this time he combined both better than ever before. Hes a complete fighter now. Its the first time he really used all his tools in a fight.

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                #47
                Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                Lmao Biased? reality is not bias. suggesting a fighter was hurt or spent when all evidence points to the contrary is biased my friend. Mayweather is in my estimation the best boxer on the planet, he wins a very close decision in a rematch, would not be surprised if Cotto wins by TKO. Cotto defeats Canelo, Canelo is not mobile, hes flat and slow footed, a well trained Cotto would win. GGG May be to big, but he has not faced a fighter of Cotto's caliber and we can assume that Cotto has carried his power to middle weight is actually the most interesting fight out of the three.
                Well I guess we both have a warped perception on what reality is. Or maybe its just homerism. Do you think Sergio was 100% healthy going into the fight?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                  Lmao Biased? reality is not bias. suggesting a fighter was hurt or spent when all evidence points to the contrary is biased my friend. Mayweather is in my estimation the best boxer on the planet, he wins a very close decision in a rematch, would not be surprised if Cotto wins by TKO. Cotto defeats Canelo, Canelo is not mobile, hes flat and slow footed, a well trained Cotto would win. GGG May be to big, but he has not faced a fighter of Cotto's caliber and we can assume that Cotto has carried his power to middle weight is actually the most interesting fight out of the three.
                  Ok. Your answers are don't seem biased, my apologies but there are some Cotto fans here that are complete trolls.

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                  • KnickTillDeaTh
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by elgu
                    Given that you do admit Martinez was declining and that he couldn't put weight behind his punches or bending his knees properly, how much credit do you give Cotto for this victory? Do you think he should be consider the man at middleweight over GGG?
                    I give Cotto credit because of what Martinez did to Chavez Jr, and Fought well enough to get the nod against Murray (though i think that fight was a draw at best). Cotto should fight GGG, Cotto has been sparring with Middle weights and heavy weights. On you tube GGG was supposed to spar with Cotto at Big Bear while Cotto was training for the Trout fight, GGG's trainer turned the sparring down because he felt Cotto was peaking and GGG had only begun his training camp, so them sparring would not have benefited either. Translation, Cotto would probably look good and lower GGG's stock if rumors of a bad sparring session got out. If GGG's corner respects Cotto that much I like the fight. Cotto is Lineal, so yes should be considered top dog, but he should fight GGG.

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                    • LouIE G
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                      #50
                      I wish martinez's fans were as classy has him.. they gave cotto no chance and shot down every fan going for cotto, then he gets whooped now all of them have excuses!!! Lmao

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