Comments Thread For: Team Martinez Has No Excuses, Just Credit For Cotto Loss

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I guess man...his knees were 100% and had absolutely nothing to do with his performace. I hope that Sergio is back in the ring in 3 months for the rematch. This way he can get that training he missed out on this go round.

I never said he was 100% but when Martinez moved he didnt look any different then his last 4 fights. The difference was Cotto Caught Martinez early then controlled from there. Martinez couldnt throw a solid punch because Cotto wasint in position to be hit. Cotto remained just outside Martinez' lead shoulder through out the entire fight which is why Martinez could only land a jab, and interesting enough it was the best his jab has ever looked. You cant ague with doctors or the fighter himself.

[Hyper Knuckles]

So what you saying is that all the people trying to make an excuse for Sergio are not real men? You know what? That! I agree with you completely.

Buurrrrrrrn lol

[jcj0427]

I never said he was 100% but when Martinez moved he didnt look any different then his last 4 fights. The difference was Cotto Caught Martinez early then controlled from there. Martinez couldnt throw a solid punch because Cotto wasint in position to be hit. Cotto remained just outside Martinez' lead shoulder through out the entire fight which is why Martinez could only land a jab, and interesting enough it was the best his jab has ever looked. You cant ague with doctors or the fighter himself.

at least theres some acknowledgment to accepting that he wasn't 100%.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

You must not watch boxing if you think Sergio Martinez was 100% healthy in that fight. Dude couldnt even muster enough power to throw any type of punch combinations. I counted one. He was stumbling onto the ropes and tripping on his own feet when getting hit even with the lightest shots. This guy has been in wars with big middleweights and all of sudden Cottos punching power is denting him this bad?? Cmon, lets be realistic. Please youtube his greatest hits and tell me if that was the same person in terms of being healthy.

I never said he was 100% but when Martinez moved he didnt look any different then his last 4 fights. The difference was Cotto Caught Martinez early then controlled from there. Martinez couldnt throw a solid punch because Cotto wasint in position to be hit. Cotto remained just outside Martinez' lead shoulder through out the entire fight which is why Martinez could only land a jab, and interesting enough it was the best his jab has ever looked. You cant ague with doctors or the fighter himself.

Let me ask you a question. Have you ever seen Martinez' record? The first real fighter he defeated was Paul Wiliams. Before that Martinez fought nothing but BUMBS, now tell me what martinez' KO ratio? How did Martinez go from not being able to KO bumbs to knocking out top middle weights? Roy Jones said it best, Cotto is a better puncher the Margaritto and if he can get to Martinez so can Cotto. And even better George Forman " If your Jab Snaps his head back, you can knock him out." theres your boxing lesson.

[assiong]

You must not watch boxing if you think Sergio Martinez was 100% healthy in that fight. Dude couldnt even muster enough power to throw any type of punch combinations. I counted one. He was stumbling onto the ropes and tripping on his own feet when getting hit even with the lightest shots. This guy has been in wars with big middleweights and all of sudden Cottos punching power is denting him this bad?? Cmon, lets be realistic. Please youtube his greatest hits and tell me if that was the same person in terms of being healthy.

You probably never lace a pair of boxing gloves if that is the way you see how it went down. He got hit on the head several times, he got hit on the temple couple of times, he always get hit with that left hook on the side of his head. How can you stand firmly with a messed up equilibrium? Those short compact left hook that Cotto landed on Sergio's head did the damage not because his knees are not 100%. Give it a rest. Sergio got beat and admitted he lost fair and square, why can't you accept that? He was the one who suffered a broken nose and concussion not you, so how can you continually argue while Sergio said it himself it was that punch in the 1st round that did the damage?

[jcj0427]

I never said he was 100% but when Martinez moved he didnt look any different then his last 4 fights. The difference was Cotto Caught Martinez early then controlled from there. Martinez couldnt throw a solid punch because Cotto wasint in position to be hit. Cotto remained just outside Martinez' lead shoulder through out the entire fight which is why Martinez could only land a jab, and interesting enough it was the best his jab has ever looked. You cant ague with doctors or the fighter himself.

Let me ask you a question. Have you ever seen Martinez' record? The first real fighter he defeated was Paul Wiliams. Before that Martinez fought nothing but BUMBS, now tell me what martinez' KO ratio? How did Martinez go from not being able to KO bumbs to knocking out top middle weights? Roy Jones said it best, Cotto is a better puncher the Margaritto and if he can get to Martinez so can Cotto. And even better George Forman " If your Jab Snaps his head back, you can knock him out." theres your boxing lesson.

Lol. Roy also said his knees were done, nice try though. Sergio wasn't throwing anything meaningful to back Cotto off of him because he physically wasn't capable of it. I'm not talking about moving in the ring, im talking about exchanging and making subtle movements on the inside when your punching. Martinez had no answer because he couldnt get any leverage from his legs. It was so clear. The whole commentary team said it, his trainer said, and we all saw it with our own two eyes.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

That guy stumbling around the ring like bambi and barely being able to put any energy into his punches is not a prime Martinez. The guy had nothing in his punches. The fact that the MRI and CT came out ok doesn't mean the guy could maneuver and put weight in his punches, it just means no bones were broken.

Mri has nothing to do with bones. The doctors determined that his knees were fine, they didnt say that his knees were ok put he couldnt put weight in them. The fact is Martinez has been on a steady decline since the second Williams fight. Since the Macklin fight Martinez' movement began to look more stiff in his lower body, he hasnt been bending his knees for his last 4 fights. Martinez was unprepared for this fight, got hit and couldnt recover. He no looked no different then his last 4 fights and I know because i have watched all 4 since last night. The major difference i saw was were Cotto positioned in himeself and Martinez' lack of timing.

[elgu]

I never said he was 100% but when Martinez moved he didnt look any different then his last 4 fights. The difference was Cotto Caught Martinez early then controlled from there. Martinez couldnt throw a solid punch because Cotto wasint in position to be hit. Cotto remained just outside Martinez' lead shoulder through out the entire fight which is why Martinez could only land a jab, and interesting enough it was the best his jab has ever looked. You cant ague with doctors or the fighter himself.

Let me ask you a question. Have you ever seen Martinez' record? The first real fighter he defeated was Paul Wiliams. Before that Martinez fought nothing but BUMBS, now tell me what martinez' KO ratio? How did Martinez go from not being able to KO bumbs to knocking out top middle weights? Roy Jones said it best, Cotto is a better puncher the Margaritto and if he can get to Martinez so can Cotto. And even better George Forman " If your Jab Snaps his head back, you can knock him out." theres your boxing lesson.

In his last 4 fights Martinez wasn't falling or stumbling around like a baby giraffe. He could also sit down on his punches and land with power. Just out of curiosity how do you think Cotto would do against GGG, Canelo or Floyd in a rematch? I want to see how biased you are.

[assiong]

I never said he was 100% but when Martinez moved he didnt look any different then his last 4 fights. The difference was Cotto Caught Martinez early then controlled from there. Martinez couldnt throw a solid punch because Cotto wasint in position to be hit. Cotto remained just outside Martinez' lead shoulder through out the entire fight which is why Martinez could only land a jab, and interesting enough it was the best his jab has ever looked. You cant ague with doctors or the fighter himself.

Let me ask you a question. Have you ever seen Martinez' record? The first real fighter he defeated was Paul Wiliams. Before that Martinez fought nothing but BUMBS, now tell me what martinez' KO ratio? How did Martinez go from not being able to KO bumbs to knocking out top middle weights? Roy Jones said it best, Cotto is a better puncher the Margaritto and if he can get to Martinez so can Cotto. And even better George Forman " If your Jab Snaps his head back,
you can knock him out." theres your boxing lesson.

Bravo Sir, you know boxing I see. These people keep trying to justify Sergio's loss without a solid facts. They keep saying his knees were damage and what not. They don't want to accept that Cotto was and always a better fighter than most of Sergios past opponents, plus a good offensive minded trainer that always looks for a weakness on his opponents. What Roach and Cotto did last night was a prime example of a good teacher laying out a plan and perfectly executed by his student, thus made the teacher looks like a genius.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Lol. Roy also said his knees were done, nice try though. Sergio wasn't throwing anything meaningful to back Cotto off of him because he physically wasn't capable of it. I'm not talking about moving in the ring, im talking about exchanging and making subtle movements on the inside when your punching. Martinez had no answer because he couldnt get any leverage from his legs. It was so clear. The whole commentary team said it, his trainer said, and we all saw it with our own two eyes.

I'll have to respectfully disagree. What i saw was a fighter who was devoid of timing, who looked out of it, and if you know anything about fighting and positioning you would know that Cotto remaining just outside Martinez' lead shoulder,Martinez trying so desperately to avoid Cotto's left hook, forced Martinez right, Martinez couldnt plant because he plants while moving left. and Martinez aint dumb enough to try to throw a power punch across his body.