martinez: "it was a punch and not the knee"

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #151
    Originally posted by pigsfly
    after the first bell rung? you mean when he got caught cold and almost knocked out? that had nothing to do with legs. he just got caught and was almost gone...........again cotto has brilliant timing and just caught him in that first.
    No I mean after the first bell rung. Like I already told you, I noticed it straight away.

    Originally posted by ~AK49~
    It doesn't go both ways tho, as cotto is 1-2 divisions smaller than Martinez. I'm saying a lot by saying he's the best Martinez has faced, because oh you know.....HE LOST. The proof is in the pudding.

    Cotto lost the trout fight because he went in with a ****ty plan. Enter roach, and why people were ecstatic that roach is in the picture now.
    As per usual, Cotto fanboys are allowed to make excuses for their man's losses or bad performances.

    2 knee surgeries are lame excuses doe!

    Originally posted by radioraheem
    If you really believed what you said, you wouldn't have predicted that Sergio Martinez would WIN by T/KO. If you really weighed all of that stuff, you would've been like 'I dunno, this fight is a tough one, Cotto may beat him, or vice-versa.' You wouldn't confidently predict a T/KO. So like I just void alot of what you just typed.

    Austin Trout fought a close fight with Cotto (in my opinion). I was there at that fight, and everyone around me felt the same. Trout is also a big guy, a southpaw, skilled, has long reach, decent defense, etc. Trout ain't reckless enough to fight with his hands down. Trout's biggest liability I believe is that he doesn't have a whole lot of power. Martinez would have FITS with a guy like Trout, another guy who is fundamentally sound. My opinion though.
    If you read my recent posts before the fight, I said the only reason this fight is really interesting is because no one knows how Sergio is going to look after his injuries/inactivity.

    We only found out after the first bell rung.

    Cotto would have FITS with Williams or Pavlik. That doesn't mean they were better p4p. Martinez is arguably the best fighter Cotto has actually beaten. Only Mosley is in that argument.

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    • Canvas
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      #152
      Sergio as usual showed a tremendous amount of class. So did Cotto.

      It's unfortunate so many of Cotto's rican super fans showed so little class on the internet after the fight.

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      • SonOfCuba
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        #153
        Simple, he fooled the media and the fans into thinking this would be a competitive fight in order to make a big payday. He should have never fought and why make excuses for making over a $1M dollars when he should have never even been in the ring?

        Sergio completely lost the only thing that has made him successful in his career.... the ability to move.
        Last edited by SonOfCuba; 06-08-2014, 02:51 PM.

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        • El Angel
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          #154
          Cotto did nothing apparently. Martinez knocked himself down, cut his own eye, and got his own ass beat. At least according to NSB after they were all WRONG

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          • Godsfly
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            #155
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Cotto has good timing and a good jab. I expected him to have success with that early in this fight. But he has little to no defence so I expected Sergio to start busting him up eventually. Sergio managed to tag him with single left hands here and there but why didn't he follow up?

            Because he couldn't. He couldn't even get any snap on the initial single shots because he couldn't spring into them.
            sergios defense is actually A LOT worse then cotto. you see the problem with you is that you're giving martinez credit for imaginary things while underrating cottos arsenal. martinez has worse defense then cotto.......he also has horrible balance. he trips and flips all over his own feet. (cotto is A much stronger balanced all around fighter) and he has brilliant timing. macklin was timing martinez over and over again & macklin is garbage. martinez landed some blistering body shots but was scared to follow up because of how strong cotto was hitting back (he had been already hurt) this stuff has nothing to do with legs.

            this is the problem. people are literally overrating martinez and underrating cotto..........& then the legs get mixed in as a cover up.
            Last edited by Godsfly; 06-08-2014, 02:53 PM.

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              #156
              Originally posted by pigsfly
              sergios defense is actually A LOT worse then cotto. you see the problem with you is that you're giving martinez credit for imaginary things while underrating cottos arsenal. martinez has worse defense then cotto.......he also has horrible balance. he trips and flips all over his own feet. (cotto is A much stronger balanced all around fighter) and he has brilliant timing. macklin was timing martinez over and over again & macklin is garbage. martinez landed some blistering body shots but was scared to follow up because of how strong cotto was hitting back (he had been already hurt) this stuff has nothing to do with legs.

              this is the problem. people are literally overrating martinez and underrating cotto..........& then the legs get mixed in as a cover up.
              I wouldn't say that at all. Cotto's face is marked up after damn near every fight.

              Sergio couldn't throw combinations because his knee wouldn't allow him to follow through to the second phase of the attack.

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #157
                Originally posted by El Angel
                Cotto did nothing apparently. Martinez knocked himself down, cut his own eye, and got his own ass beat. At least according to NSB after they were all WRONG
                Don't get emotional. Cotto did what he had to do against what was put in front of him which was a sitting duck.

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                • bopbopbbe
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                  #158
                  Anything that happened last night has nothing to do with how a prime martinez vs a prime cotto would of looked. So any sort of discussion about their skills is irrelevant.

                  Cotto took advantage of Martinez's situation...i cant hate him for that but i'm not gonna play dumb like cotto fanboys and act like he just beat marvin hagler.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    If you read my recent posts before the fight, I said the only reason this fight is really interesting is because no one knows how Sergio is going to look after his injuries/inactivity.

                    We only found out after the first bell rung.

                    Cotto would have FITS with Williams or Pavlik. That doesn't mean they were better p4p. Martinez is arguably the best fighter Cotto has actually beaten. Only Mosley is in that argument.
                    And yet you still predicted a T/KO in favor of Sergio Martinez! Doesn't make much sense to me.

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                    • Godsfly
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      I wouldn't say that at all. Cotto's face is marked up after damn near every fight.

                      Sergio couldn't throw combinations because his knee wouldn't allow him to follow through to the second phase of the attack.
                      dude, defense has nothing to do with how your face looks. it's not a looks contest...it's about how your balance is the way in which you keep your hands up and defend yourself.


                      martinez has worse defense then cotto..........a lot of people are overrating martinez defense just because they see him move around.

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