martinez: "it was a punch and not the knee"

[SplitSecond]

He was moving around like a baby giraffe in there

watched the first couple of seconds twice(before sergio got caught) and didn't notice nothing except he looked slow, which was to be expected being 39 and off roids

in the second rd it did look like his knee gave out on him on the bend ducking a cotto left hook but this is ther same way he always falls, the ducking and moving out to his right

and there are plenty of moments in that fight, like the 6th(i think) where he was throwing real low left crosses and bending his knee all the weight on it and no issues, this was after getting his ass kicked and breaking his knee in the first(or before), which with my experience at least, you *** up your knee, it's ***ed, and ony gets worse with more movement and bending, even later in the fight i believe he started getting off with a series of lefts to cotto's midsection and he puts alot of weight on his knee

[Godsfly]

LOL the knee story is flimsy now...he had THREE knee surgeries in the past year at age 40. This is like Kobe getting 3 surgeries on his achilles then expecting him to take Lebron on one on one in the finals.

****ing ******s i swear...make boxing fans look bad.

i didn't say Sergios 3 SURGERIES were flimsy now did I? i said him injuring his knee in this specific fight (that story that some butt hurt fans are parading) is flimsy & theres no evidence behind it whats so ever...........thats why I'm looking at the updates very closely. the reason why he was wobbly & falling all over himself (hurt in the first round) & never regain his equilibrium. that could very well be the case..........(& it comes from his own mouth)

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Do you think prime Cotto could beat prime Williams?

You know before Martinez ethered him?

Cmon jreck my man you know styles make fights. Williams was never ever a better fighter than Cotto. You know that. I know that. Now would Cotto beat a prime Paul. Fu.kk NO.

Do you think Mayorga is a better fighter than Vernon Forrest? Ofcourse you dont.

Cottl was the best fighter Sergio has ever fought and its not close. He lost it happens.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Skill wise, Cotto is the best boxer Sergio has faced pound-for-pound but Cotto loses almost all of his big fights so Sergio could easily have been his best win too....if he wasn't a shell of himself.

You're not really saying much by saying Cotto was the best guy he's faced. It can work both ways.

Austin Trout comfortably handled Cotto and there's no way anyone is telling me that Trout is better than Sergio.....a healthy Sergio I mean.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

watched the first couple of seconds twice(before sergio got caught) and didn't notice nothing except he looked slow, which was to be expected being 39 and off roids

in the second rd it did look like his knee gave out on him on the bend ducking a cotto left hook but this is ther same way he always falls, the ducking and moving out to his right

and there are plenty of moments in that fight, like the 6th(i think) where he was throwing real low left crosses and bending his knee all the weight on it and no issues, this was after getting his ass kicked and breaking his knee in the first(or before), which with my experience at least, you *** up your knee, it's ***ed, and ony gets worse with more movement and bending, even later in the fight i believe he started getting off with a series of lefts to cotto's midsection and he puts alot of weight on his knee

Off roids?

His knees were fine doe

[bopbopbbe]

And what would be Cotto's excuse if he lost? That he's shot? That he's been in too many wars? Too many key losses? Roach's fault? That he was too small? That he never fought a Middleweight before?

Cotto doesnt need an excuse if he had lost cause he was stepping up to 160 after looking like **** at 154 except for the Rodriguez fight.

But everybody knew that the one shot Cotto had was if Martinez was shot.

Now Cotto fanboys are acting like that scenario never existed and Cotto Kod the same Martinez that was putting beatings on Chavez Jr and Pavlik.

[Godsfly]

Probably because no one could have known the extent of how bad his knees were until after the first bell rung. We never saw any sparring or anything. There was no way of knowing that he'd come in looking THAT bad.

after the first bell rung? you mean when he got caught cold and almost knocked out? that had nothing to do with legs. he just got caught and was almost gone...........again cotto has brilliant timing and just caught him in that first.

[~AK49~]

Skill wise, Cotto is the best boxer Sergio has faced pound-for-pound but Cotto loses almost all of his big fights so Sergio could easily have been his best win too....if he wasn't a shell of himself.

You're not really saying much by saying Cotto was the best guy he's faced. It can work both ways.

Austin Trout comfortably handled Cotto and there's no way anyone is telling me that Trout is better than Sergio.....a healthy Sergio I mean.

It doesn't go both ways tho, as cotto is 1-2 divisions smaller than Martinez. I'm saying a lot by saying he's the best Martinez has faced, because oh you know.....HE LOST. The proof is in the pudding.

Cotto lost the trout fight because he went in with a ****ty plan. Enter roach, and why people were ecstatic that roach is in the picture now.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Cotto has good timing and a good jab. I expected him to have success with that early in this fight. But he has little to no defence so I expected Sergio to start busting him up eventually. Sergio managed to tag him with single left hands here and there but why didn't he follow up?

Because he couldn't. He couldn't even get any snap on the initial single shots because he couldn't spring into them.

[radioraheem]

Skill wise, Cotto is the best boxer Sergio has faced pound-for-pound but Cotto loses almost all of his big fights so Sergio could easily have been his best win too....if he wasn't a shell of himself.

You're not really saying much by saying Cotto was the best guy he's faced. It can work both ways.

Austin Trout comfortably handled Cotto and there's no way anyone is telling me that Trout is better than Sergio.....a healthy Sergio I mean.

If you really believed what you said, you wouldn't have predicted that Sergio Martinez would WIN by T/KO. If you really weighed all of that stuff, you would've been like 'I dunno, this fight is a tough one, Cotto may beat him, or vice-versa.' You wouldn't confidently predict a T/KO. So like I just void alot of what you just typed.

Austin Trout fought a close fight with Cotto (in my opinion). I was there at that fight, and everyone around me felt the same. Trout is also a big guy, a southpaw, skilled, has long reach, decent defense, etc. Trout ain't reckless enough to fight with his hands down. Trout's biggest liability I believe is that he doesn't have a whole lot of power. Martinez would have FITS with a guy like Trout, another guy who is fundamentally sound. My opinion though.