martinez: "it was a punch and not the knee"

[Guest]

who gives a **** about the announcers. we are going by what martinez himself said. screw the announcers. the announcers know just as much as our "boxingscene doctors & psycho annalist"

If Martinez has surgery on his knees after this fight, will the punch have done it?

[mathed]

I have to agree.

He also failed to follow through with his lead left the entire fight (obviously because of the pressure it would place on his right knee).

If it wasn't his knee that was in trouble, and he knew he needed to hurt/KO Cotto at some point, why didn't he follow through? At least just once?

He hit Cotto with several nice lefts (at least they appeared to be nice punches) and Cotto didn't even budge. Either someone implanted Cotto with an iron chin or Martinez had no snap on his punches.

[mirizarr]

It was a punch ruptured his eardrum and messed up Martinez's equilibrium in the first round.

[Godsfly]

How is that horrific example in any way relevant?? If your back was as stiff as a board in the way Sergio's leg was, then I'd be able to tell from just looking.

Martinez didn't say his knees weren't troubling him. All he said was that he didn't want to make any excuses. It was a big PPV fight on HBO, he's not going to tell everyone that he was at probably less than 20% in there. We can all see his legs were shot - I assume the extent of the story will come out eventually. You can stay in denial if you want though.

dude, its a ****ty horrific example because sergio is telling you that it's not his knee. he points the blame on a punch. when someone says "I got hit cold and never could regain my balance for the remaining of the fight" that's dismissing the "hurt knee" & telling you that he was simply still hurt from the first round. everyone was pushing sergio to blame it on the knee (even his own trainer) A big PPV fight? max himself was pushing martinez to blame it on the knee. his trainer, everyone. no one would have cared if sergio mentioned a hurt knee. (thats what everyone thought anyway) but he didn't because it wasn't true. it was cottos early attack which took martinez out of the fight.........

[Dean_Razorback]

here he was giving cotto props and said that it wasn't the knee it was a punch that ****ed him up in the first round. (thats the point) but with murray he had no issues with telling how badly he hurt his hand..........

you just proved my point and you don't even realize it.

he won the murray fight, why put excuses, you just ignore what i said, even if you believe he lost the fight he won it officially, that, is not an excuse.
but why do you keep ignoring the fact that not just cotto's fans but also cotto himself used (and keep using) the plaster as an excuse for his loss against margarito? martinez also lost to margarito, have you ever heard him say anything about plaster?

[gmc_rfc_06]

Sergio is a classy guy.

We now know how badly damaged his body was and he is truly shot, but he will credit Miguel instead of taking away from his achievement.

[Gr1fter]

He's a magnanimous guy, simple. You don't need Sergio admitting to his terrible knees, to see they were responsible for the loss. Dude could barely walk. It'd be like Steven hawking saying he was "caught cold" after losing a street fight

[Evil_Meat]

he won the murray fight, why put excuses, you just ignore what i said, even if you believe he lost the fight he won it officially, that, is not an excuse.
but why do you keep ignoring the fact that not just cotto's fans but also cotto himself used (and keep using) the plaster as an excuse for his loss against margarito? martinez also lost to margarito, have you ever heard him say anything about plaster?

I think the problem is that people overrated a faded Martinez. Martinez looked faded against Murray (lets be real he did not look like the same fighter that fought bunema p will and pavlik), and people thought a 75% Sergio would be able able to beat Cotto. The fact is that Martinez hasn't looked good since the surgeries after the Chavez Jr fight and who knows maybe he could beat a 100% sergio but nobody knows and all we do know is that Cotto beat a faded Martinez and even though people knew he was faded most people felt he would still win but obviously that was not the case.

[Godsfly]

I'm only telling you what I said. He usually moves so much more fluidly than he did last night.....from the first bell. He usually dips and drops but he couldn't even bend his knee. There was nothing on his punches because he couldn't spring.

Denial.

"He usually moves so much more fluidly than he did last night" did ya ever think that had a little to do with cotto? he moves good against guys like chavez (guys who are slow & who plods froward) cotto was careful not to follow martinez and timed him to a tee. the reason why martinez couldn't move as fluently? cotto wasn't following martinez. martinez is the type of fighter that sets traps, cotto wasn't falling for them so therefore it was throwing martinez off (that along with being caught cold and never recovering) ruined him..............am i saying that martinez was 100%? no. I would rate him the same as in the chavez fight, barker, macklin.

[elgu]

Anyone with eyes saw Martinez legs giving out several times in the match. Also when they stopped the fight the trainer was telling him that his knee was messed up.