Just stop it already, a 10 count? for what?

[PACnPBFsuck]

You mean the guy who appeared to be on his feet before the count of 10?

I guess being held up by the ref means you're ready to go

[Frank Ducketts]

groves was out cold when the ref called it off. are you telling me bayless should have counted to 8 when he saw pacquiao lying face first?

the hell. These refs are there to protect the fighter. Let's say groves did not wake up and the ref counted to 8 while groves lays there motionless. Everybody here would be furious with the ref. That was a good call by the ref.

No Groves wasn't out cold. Wtf...

[FeFist]

You're seriously thick. If those precious seconds saved a guy from brain damage, how would we know when he won't actually suffer the brain damage if those precious seconds spared him?

Jheez, you're as thick as Larry.

-_- is what I've found myself doing many a time on this forum.

It's like people don't realise what happens when the body does not have enough oxygen, and how narrow the windows are between escaping with no injury and suffering permanent damage. The fact that an oxygen mask was placed on Groves face should tell people all they need to know. But, somehow the experts of Boxingscene know more than the referee, who saw Groves up close, and the medical staff.

[Frank Ducketts]

You're seriously thick. If those precious seconds saved a guy from brain damage, how would we know when he won't actually suffer the brain damage if those precious seconds spared him?

Jheez, you're as thick as Larry.

Why don't you google a bit of research on brain damage Einstein. And after that gO find that fight where these precious few seconds saved a fighter from brain damage and I'll agree with you.

[Money_May]

-_- is what I've found myself doing many a time on this forum.

It's like people don't realise what happens when the body does not have enough oxygen, and how narrow the windows are between escaping with no injury and suffering permanent damage. The fact that an oxygen mask was placed on Groves face should tell people all they need to know. But, somehow the experts of Boxingscene know more than the referee, who saw Groves up close, and the medical staff.

I just can't believe some of the things I'm reading here tbh.

I've had enough, I'm out. This place has gone to ****.

[Frank Ducketts]

-_- is what I've found myself doing many a time on this forum.

It's like people don't realise what happens when the body does not have enough oxygen, and how narrow the windows are between escaping with no injury and suffering permanent damage. The fact that an oxygen mask was placed on Groves face should tell people all they need to know. But, somehow the experts of Boxingscene know more than the referee, who saw Groves up close, and the medical staff.

Yeah and Dr's like you can tell exactly what's going on with a fighter when you have never felt a punch like he did.

[sunny31]

-_- is what I've found myself doing many a time on this forum.

It's like people don't realise what happens when the body does not have enough oxygen, and how narrow the windows are between escaping with no injury and suffering permanent damage. The fact that an oxygen mask was placed on Groves face should tell people all they need to know. But, somehow the experts of Boxingscene know more than the referee, who saw Groves up close, and the medical staff.

Dumb people - Spencer Oliver is a perfect example of where seconds made a difference, those seconds that fighters before him didn't have. The advancement in ringside safety have concentrated on exactly that, eliminating seconds of non treatment. I just don't see the argument at all, his legs were still not working at all 2 minutes after the fight!

[FeFist]

Yeah and Dr's like you can tell exactly what's going on with a fighter when you have never felt a punch like he did.

Nope; but the medical practitioners, at ring side, could.

[Frank Ducketts]

Dumb people - Spencer Oliver is a perfect example of where seconds made a difference, those seconds that fighters before him didn't have. The advancement in ringside safety have concentrated on exactly that, eliminating seconds of non treatment. I just don't see the argument at all, his legs were still not working at all 2 minutes after the fight!

Spencer Oliver is a terrible example so please stop it.

[Frank Ducketts]

Nope; but the medical practitioners, at ring side, could.

The fight was over. This is AFTER the point.