Should Froch be no. 1 if he beats Groves?

[PACnPBFsuck]

what if ward fought a bum like baldomir and lost? would ward still be above froch since he beat froch which means we can never have froch above ward ever again right?

[LacedUp]

What the hell are you talking about? How were Bute and Kessler the 1 and 2 in the division?

So what is Ward now? 4? 5?

Ward was the champ you muppet

Bute was #1 contender in in 2012 when they met.

Kessler was #2 contender behind Froch and Ward (champ).

[ShoulderRoll]

what if ward fought a bum like baldomir and lost? would ward still be above froch since he beat froch which means we can never have froch above ward ever again right?

If Ward took an L in the ring then yes, Froch could conceivably move up to the #1 spot. But Andre hasn't lost since he was in the amateurs so good luck with that.

Or if Ward had a year or more of inactivity then the WBA could strip him of the belt and Froch could move to the top spot that way.

Or maybe Andre could drop dead and then Froch would be the man.

Those are the only ways though.

[LacedUp]

If Ward took an L in the ring then yes, Froch could conceivably move up to the #1 spot. But Andre hasn't lost since he was in the amateurs so good luck with that.

Or if Ward had a year or more of inactivity then the WBA could strip him of the belt and Froch could move to the top spot that way.

Or maybe Andre could drop dead and then Froch would be the man.

Those are the only ways though.

So now we are defining the champ based on his inactivity levels?

[bojangles1987]

Nah.

If Ward sits the year out, than yes.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ward was the champ you muppet

Bute was #1 contender in in 2012 when they met.

Kessler was #2 contender behind Froch and Ward (champ).

So you're referring to Ring Magazine rankings?

[LacedUp]

So you're referring to Ring Magazine rankings?

What else would I be referring to? Fantasy rankings?

[soul_survivor]

What else would I be referring to? Fantasy rankings?

LOL THEY JUST MAD COS YOU TELLING the truth

[ShoulderRoll]

So now we are defining the champ based on his inactivity levels?

The WBA has rules about that for their world champions. If he fails to meet them then he has to be stripped, and in that situation I would consider it ok for Froch to be considered #1.

But it has to be due to rules that are already in place. Not just because you guys don't like Ward or his fighting style or his nationality or his choice of opponents.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What else would I be referring to? Fantasy rankings?

Well essentially, they are fantasy rankings but that's beside the point.

You do realise that Ring Magazine will never....and the Rock means never.....rank Froch above Ward unless...

A. He beats him
B. Ward retires
C. Ward is inactive for so long that he has to hand in the title.