Is Andre Ward still #P4P no.2???

[Rome-By-Ko]

But would you give Wlad credited because Ali signed the dotted line?

And obviously Mayweather wasn't drained at 147 he weighs 150 on fight night and fought there a year prior!!!!!!

Do you not take these things into account? Like seriously?

Use your brain for crying out loud!

Chad Dawson went down to weight he hadn't been at in 6 years. A weight that was 7 lbs lower than he'd been campaigning.

Do you not understand how this is an extreme thing? And nothing alike to Floyd Mayweather returning to 147 after 1 year when he comes to the ring at 150 lbs.

Ali coming out of retirement to fight Wlad is the same thing your saying??So you don't have to use your brain to know that it's not the same thing??

It's not something we see to often,but like I've said(and if ya pulled ya head out of ya own azz and tried comprehending)an advantage is an advantage..If ya going to detract from Ward detract from everyone doing it..Weather 1lb or 10lbs..

I take everything into account,it's all part of the fight..Yet they are all terms,terms that could have been denied yet was not..So now what,do I go into the fight with all these excuse against one fighter..You do see how that's complete bull**** don't you..

Like I said if Dawson got the win you would not be talking about this weight ****..Now you may be right,Dawson may have been drained or whatever..Never was my argument to begin with..Yet he excepted the terms of the fight,he choose Ward to fight..He got his azz beat,I can not then turn around and take credit away from Ward..Sounds ****king crazy to me..

If Dawson beat Ward I would not hear not a damn thing about weight..So please just stop with the bull already..

[Rome-By-Ko]

You must be trolling!!

Yet you don't ask the guy who ask the dumb question(something that would never happen)if he was trolling..Nelson??

[Rome-By-Ko]

Your example makes no sense though because he wasn't deducted a point for intent he was deducted a point for fouling him.



I know you're not but it's like you're being purposely ironic

Ok but you're saying if it makes it to 25, that it's the same as 1 And you actually think that's logical?

What was the difference between the 1st low blow Mares landed compared to the 25??Was there a difference in low blows??If so explain??

[Rome-By-Ko]

If we've decided to ignore all context, then yeah, Maidana fought a drained Mayweather.

Between this and your refusal to acknowledge robberies, it seems you hate context. Everyone who knocked out Roy Jones after Tarver and Johnson gets credit for beating the best Roy Jones I guess. Holyfield beat the best Foreman. James Toney is a natural heavyweight because he weighs so much on fight night.

You got it fuccked up..I acknowledge bad decisions,yet I know that my opinion won't change um..I also think it's criminal to not acknowledge the actual outcome of any event..Boxing or other..

I don't get where we're getting age from??Age and what terms someone agrees on in a fight are not nearly the same thing,which is why I ask you to find a better example in the first place..

[IronDanHamza]

What was the difference between the 1st low blow Mares landed compared to the 25??Was there a difference in low blows??If so explain??

Oh, I don't know he'd done it 25 times as opposed to once

Are you actually saying one low blow, and 25 low blows, is the same thing?

[IronDanHamza]

Ali coming out of retirement to fight Wlad is the same thing your saying??So you don't have to use your brain to know that it's not the same thing??

Of course it'is not the same thing.

But would you give him credit, because he signed to dotted line right?

It's not something we see to often,but like I've said(and if ya pulled ya head out of ya own azz and tried comprehending)an advantage is an advantage..If ya going to detract from Ward detract from everyone doing it..Weather 1lb or 10lbs..

1lb and 10 lbs is not the same!

I take everything into account,it's all part of the fight..Yet they are all terms,terms that could have been denied yet was not..So now what,do I go into the fight with all these excuse against one fighter..You do see how that's complete bull**** don't you..

It couldn't have been denied, not if he wanted the fight anyway.

Like I said if Dawson got the win you would not be talking about this weight ****..Now you may be right,Dawson may have been drained or whatever..Never was my argument to begin with..Yet he excepted the terms of the fight,he choose Ward to fight..He got his azz beat,I can not then turn around and take credit away from Ward..Sounds ****king crazy to me..

If Dawson beat Ward I would not hear not a damn thing about weight..So please just stop with the bull already..

Well obviously because Dawson's never going to win if he's dead at the weight is he.

But you've just said it, Dawson might have been drained (He was drained) that's all that needs to be said.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Oh, I don't know he'd done it 25 times as opposed to once

Are you actually saying one low blow, and 25 low blows, is the same thing?

To me it's no difference,it's all cheating..Again do I have to hold ya hand and walk you slowly through this...

Weather 1 or 25 if a guy throws and lands an intentional low blow it's a foul and it's cheating..

The same as 1lb or 10lbs it's an advantage..Keep up..

[Rome-By-Ko]

Of course it'is not the same thing.

But would you give him credit, because he signed to dotted line right?



1lb and 10 lbs is not the same!



It couldn't have been denied, not if he wanted the fight anyway.



Well obviously because Dawson's never going to win if he's dead at the weight is he.

But you've just said it, Dawson might have been drained (He was drained) that's all that needs to be said.

Can you read??I've said pages ago,I'm not trying to deny or confirm if Dawson was drained or not..My whole point and I said this many times,was that Dawson agreed to the terms..End of story..He got his azz beat end of story..Ward is still the number 2 fighter in the world(again)end of story...

You guy's love detracting,I don't give a flying fucck about all that..This has always been my point,I'm not into making excuses..You can have at it all ya want..

Oh and btw you can't prove Dawson was weight drained either..You can only speculate..

[IronDanHamza]

To me it's no difference,it's all cheating..Again do I have to hold ya hand and walk you slowly through this...

Weather 1 or 25 if a guy throws and lands an intentional low blow it's a foul and it's cheating..

The same as 1lb or 10lbs it's an advantage..Keep up..

There lies a very serious problem.

1 low blow, and 25 low blows. You consider that the same thing. That is one of the most outstanding things I have ever heard in my life.

[IronDanHamza]

Can you read??I've said pages ago,I'm not trying to deny or confirm if Dawson was drained or not..My whole point and I said this many times,was that Dawson agreed to the terms..End of story..He got his azz beat end of story..Ward is still the number 2 fighter in the world(again)end of story...

You guy's love detracting,I don't give a flying fucck about all that..This has always been my point,I'm not into making excuses..You can have at it all ya want..

Oh and btw you can't prove Ward was weight drained either..You can only speculate..

Right I understand what you're trying to say I'm just trying to show you how absurd it is.

And he clearly was drained, Dawson that is.