Is Andre Ward still #P4P no.2???

[IronDanHamza]

Yea,like after he got his azz beat..

Right.

Or when he was talking about the catchweight being rejected, etc.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Are you serious? Honestly, are you? Or are you purposely being ******?

1 low blow and 25 low blows, are entirely different.

Cotto giving Judah some intentional low blows, is not the same as Golota giving Bowe 10 or so intention low blows.

Mike Tyson biting a chunk out of Holyfields ear on two separate occasions is not the same as Broner hitting Maidana intentionally after the bell.

Ortiz headbutting Mayweather is not the same as Amir Khan pushing Lamont Peterson.

Everything mentioned above is against the rules but they aren't of the same eqivilence. Others are more extreme than others. Tyson bit Holyfield twice and got disqualified, yet, Khan pushed Peterson about 10 or so times yet only got 2 points deducted. Do you understand why that is? Because they aren't the same.

I actually cannot believe this needs explaining. Absolutely mind boggling.

You can't see the lack of logic behind putting every single rule break under the same blanket and having them of the same equivalence?

Dude cheating is cheating..I really don't understand why your not getting that peoples views are their own..Khan pushing is really not cheating,the same as I don't feel Mayweathers elbow is not cheating imo..Yet an intentional head butt or an intentional low blow is the same to me..I looked at Cotto and Ortiz's fouls as pretty much the same thing..They were intentional,hard fouls..Cheating is cheating bro..Gamesmanship is not the same as cheating,pushing holding even holding and hitting are not the same as intentional low blows intentional head butts and bitting of the ears..Which I really consider fouls..

[IronDanHamza]

Dude cheating is cheating..I really don't understand why your not getting that peoples views are their own..Khan pushing is really not cheating,the same as I don't feel Mayweathers elbow is not cheating imo..Yet an intentional head butt or an intentional low blow is the same to me..I looked at Cotto and Ortiz's fouls as pretty much the same thing..They were intentional,hard fouls..Cheating is cheating bro..Gamesmanship is not the same as cheating,pushing holding even holding and hitting are not the same as intentional low blows intentional head butts and bitting of the ears..Which I really consider fouls..

They're all against the rules.

Rabbit punches are illegal, is a rabbit punch the equivalent to biting someone?

[JmH Reborn]

LoL - Post fight of Hopkins/Dawson II; Chad said he wanted Ward at 168

Why is Ward getting crapped on for that dopehead wanting to go down to 168 - he deserved that whipping for that.

[Bushidō]

just noticed Wladimir is the rings number 3 p4p fighter

[Bushidō]

I'm going to say yes he's still number 2 because I don't think anyone has leaped high enough to be number 2 past Ward

[Rome-By-Ko]

They're all against the rules.

Rabbit punches are illegal, is a rabbit punch the equivalent to biting someone?

LMAO,I don't believe anyone is getting bitten on a reg basis..I mean I can not say biting someone is the equal to any fouls mentioned..That was some crazy **** that was not seen or ever be seen again..

[BattlingNelson]

FAO Rome.

OK, NO....I am not trying to save face...not at all. Understand, u know when I found out this fight was being made? The same exact moment YOU ALL did...after the Hopkins fight in the ring when Chad said it to Max...I was standing next to him and I said to the guy next to me, "WHAT did he just say?!?!?"

I wouldnt have said anything, it is what it is and we lost, fine...BUT I have members of his team saying right after the fight that "the weight played no factor"...THEY were trying to save face, not me...now, when u say it wasnt the weight then what was it? I'd -as the trainer- be next in line for blame, no? They wanted to say the weight had no bearing at all but I knew better. I have a life and job outside of Chad Dawson...he is CHAD DAWSON, he's always going to make money and get opportunities as champion. But my livelihood is affected here so as my own man I needed to make it right. If someone involved says the weight was not a factor then I certainly am justified in standing up at that point and making light of what I know, correct? Wouldnt you do that in defense of yourself? From day one, despite my better judgement, I was told that making 168 would be no problem whatsoever. I parroted that based on what the man in charge told me...and because thats what we do in the boxing game? Or did anyone really expect me or any other trainer on earth to tell the media and the world wide web what we REALLY thought? NEVER go by what anyone tells you before a fight because before a fight everyone "is in the best shape of their life, this was the greatest camp in history and I'm honored to be here." Chad Dawson had a TERRIBLE time making 168 pounds and I had absolutely zero to do with that. That's my word. If I did I would own up to it becaue there is no shape in losing to a great fighter in Andre Ward and we all can micalculate how the human body will respond when it is faced with trauma. I made it known within the camp on AUGUST 14th that I felt things were being done wrong...and I was dismissed and rebuffed. In hindsight, although the rebuffer will never admit it, I knew more than he did. Period. I was asked about it by this interviewer and I answered the questions...I have every right to defend myself here. Agreed or no?

NUTSHELL:

July 7 - 182 pounds

August 13 - 184 pounds

September 6 - 175 pounds

September 7 - 168.

NO GOOD.

Cant you just quit now?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

What the hell has this thread turned into?

Rome-by-ko providing the lulz as usual

[Suckmedry]

What the hell has this thread turned into?

Rome-by-ko providing the lulz as usual

Some of the posters on here are actually mental. It's like they are paid to come on here and discuss bizarre or irrelevant topics