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  • #51
    Originally posted by deanrw View Post
    Cotto is making very fine paychecks. Multi Million $ per fight. He is the only high level fighter in the sport who is capable of choosing who he wants to fight. He is a true free agent.

    Some Say Mayweather is, but he isn't. Floyd could wake up today after some vivid dream and say he wants to go over to top rank again, but, he would not be able to. He is locked in. Manny is also locked in. Everyone except some lower level fighters are. And the lower level fighters are hoping to get locked in with a promoter.
    Floyd Mayweather isn't locked into any Promoter. That was the whole point of buying out his contract from Top Rank. So that he could be independent and remain independent. Miguel Cotto likewise is independent. The only difference is that Mayweather is 'locked' into a network deal with Showtime for a fixed number of fights.

    Pacquaio though is locked with Top Rank til the end of 2016.

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    • #52
      Mannys' next fights: Marquez V, Provodnikov, Marquez VI, Bradley III, Marquez VII

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      • #53
        Originally posted by deanrw View Post
        Cotto is making very fine paychecks. Multi Million $ per fight. He is the only high level fighter in the sport who is capable of choosing who he wants to fight. He is a true free agent.

        Some Say Mayweather is, but he isn't. Floyd could wake up today after some vivid dream and say he wants to go over to top rank again, but, he would not be able to. He is locked in. Manny is also locked in. Everyone except some lower level fighters are. And the lower level fighters are hoping to get locked in with a promoter.
        oh i agree cotto is making good money BUT its still not the type of money pac or floyd is making. thats why if pac was to be a free agent it does not guarantee him making more. he will be free to fight when he wants, etc but he wont be making anywhere near what he's making with TR. even if he goes and fight a gbp fighter, gbp will not pay pac $20+mil when they have to pay their own fighter also, and pac is not even fighting for them so i just cant see gbp dishing out $20mil for pac when canelo is suppose to be their next future star and he's not even making anywhere close to that.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
          Floyd Mayweather isn't locked into any Promoter. That was the whole point of buying out his contract from Top Rank. So that he could be independent and remain independent. Miguel Cotto likewise is independent. The only difference is that Mayweather is 'locked' into a network deal with Showtime for a fixed number of fights.

          Pacquaio though is locked with Top Rank til the end of 2016.
          Do you really think Floyd is free? He is locked in with Showtime, Haymon and by association, GBP

          If he tried to walk away from them and do it on his own, he would get sued, left right and center.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Evol View Post
            hey ******, remember when fiddy tried to make the fight happen also? LOL @ u acting like lil wayne has any say as to who floyd will fight next LOL!!! and fiddy was suppose be floyd's bro bro.

            Hey ignorant ass, waste of a cum now that that's out of the way why don't we act like men and discuss boxing. If you grow up and start reading you would know that Al Haymon was a mega-concert promoter before he took over boxing so it is not out of the realm for someone with business savvy to cross genres besides it's all entertainment. Now grow up and get your weight up and I'm not suggesting more donuts or pizza!!!!
            Last edited by Sugar Q; 05-21-2014, 10:24 AM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
              Cash Money is not owned by Lil Wayne though. He's only vital in that he's Cash Money's biggest artist. But he has no ownership in Cash Money.

              The offer could've came from Madonna or Russell Simmons, and it still would've been crazy for Pacquaio to make a deal with them.

              Lil Wayne has major stock in Cash Money (Nikki Minaj and Drake). His company is called Young Money and it basically is the reason why there is a Cash Money. Once again son, get your weight up and always remember, everybody that talks boxing isn't just a dumbass, couch potato with a biased opinion.
              Last edited by Sugar Q; 05-21-2014, 10:16 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                Unless they set Manny up with soft competition till the end of 2016, I cannot see Manny in the sport for that long. he is going downhill quickly and I can only see a couple more viable fights in him at most.

                He should have went out on his own, leave more options for himself. He could still do business with Top Rank or whoever wanted to offer him the biggest money for a particular fight.

                That is what Cotto did and he is getting pretty good paydays. He is also picking and choosing who he wants to fight, no matter what promotional banner they are a part of. Cotto is still doing business with Top Rank after leaving them, but has done business with GBP and just may again for his next fight.
                Many people don't understand that Pac can still fight because being a congressman in the PI doesn't require him to be their often, once he runs for the Philippine Senate and if he wins (which for the most part is a lock) his fight career is done. unlike in the Phil House of Representative, Senate rules REQUIRE him to be in attendance at least 50% of the session.

                After 2016 Pac will be done fighting.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                  Do you really think Floyd is free? He is locked in with Showtime, Haymon and by association, GBP

                  If he tried to walk away from them and do it on his own, he would get sued, left right and center.
                  Yes, he is free, by nature of the way his business his structured. You can argue that he's Haymon's puppet if you want. But you cannot argue that he's not free. Prior to his Showtime deal, he wasn't even locked into HBO.

                  Pacquaio wasn't locked into HBO either. Top Rank was doing things fight by fight. That's how Pacquaio went over to Showtime temporarily, for the Mosley fight. And how do you think Mosley was able to leave Golden Boy just to fight Pacquaio and sign an exclusive one fight deal with Top Rank?

                  But yet...Floyd somehow isn't as free as Shane Mosley was.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                    No dude you misread cause it clearly says "after going over the 2 deals Manny decided to resign with Top Rank" and for all you Tards that are in denial Cash Money wanted to sign Manny to make the Mayweather fight happen because even a fool knows that Lil Wayne (Floyd's dude) is a vital part of Cash Money but once again Manny wanted absolutely no part of it.
                    Hmmmm you could be right, your reading comprehension could be on another level.

                    If so, pacman is d*cking(joke):-)

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                      Hey ignorant ass, waste of a cum now that that's out of the way why don't why act like men and discuss boxing. If you grow up and start reading you would know that Al Haymon was a mega-concert promoter before he took over boxing so it is not out of the realm for someone with business savvy to cross genres besides it's all entertainment. Now grow up and get your weight up and I'm not suggesting more donuts or pizza!!!!
                      haymon is not lil wayne lmao!!!

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