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  • #61
    Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
    Cash Money is not owned by Lil Wayne though. He's only vital in that he's Cash Money's biggest artist. But he has no ownership in Cash Money.

    The offer could've came from Madonna or Russell Simmons, and it still would've been crazy for Pacquaio to make a deal with them.

    Yo would'n't you say the person who has Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj and Drake is Cash Money? If Lil Wayne leaves Cash Money there would be no Cash Money but of course they're family so that won't happen and shouldn't happen but real talk, Young Money is Cash Money and Young Money is Lil Wayne's company!!!!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
      Yes, he is free, by nature of the way his business his structured. You can argue that he's Haymon's puppet if you want. But you cannot argue that he's not free. Prior to his Showtime deal, he wasn't even locked into HBO.

      Pacquaio wasn't locked into HBO either. Top Rank was doing things fight by fight. That's how Pacquaio went over to Showtime temporarily, for the Mosley fight. And how do you think Mosley was able to leave Golden Boy just to fight Pacquaio and sign an exclusive one fight deal with Top Rank?

      But yet...Floyd somehow isn't as free as Shane Mosley was.
      Usally you spit facts, but FMJ is locked at showtime for 3 more fights espinoza confirmed that. maybe i dont understand what you're saying.

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      • #63
        Everyone knew what Pac signing meant. He made his choice and thats just the way it is.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by strykr619 View Post
          Many people don't understand that Pac can still fight because being a congressman in the PI doesn't require him to be their often, once he runs for the Philippine Senate and if he wins (which for the most part is a lock) his fight career is done. unlike in the Phil House of Representative, Senate rules REQUIRE him to be in attendance at least 50% of the session.

          After 2016 Pac will be done fighting.
          i dont think anyone is questioning about if manny will be tied down to his congress work or not. we're saying we dont think pac can fight until 2016. meaning i dont think he will last for that long. 2016 is still a few years from now.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
            Floyd Mayweather isn't locked into any Promoter. That was the whole point of buying out his contract from Top Rank. So that he could be independent and remain independent. Miguel Cotto likewise is independent. The only difference is that Mayweather is 'locked' into a network deal with Showtime for a fixed number of fights.

            Pacquaio though is locked with Top Rank til the end of 2016.
            oops i understand now all good.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by The Raw Dog View Post
              Seriously, Cash Money has created a licensed sports agency to add to its portfolio of investment, and has begun representing athletes such as Mike Evans of the Tampa Bay Bucks. I think Baby would have help Manny on a few different levels, because say what you want, the guy has built a HipHop Dynasty over the last 20 years. I believe the Maywweather fight would have happen sooner for Manny, but in any case I believe it will still happen. I believe Manny may have put language in the contract which facilitates Manny the opportunity to offer Arum step aside money, because if it doesn't then Manny truly is not interested in a Floyd fight.
              Schaefer already offered Arum a step aside fee and he refused. I don't think Manny is "disinterested" in a Floyd fight. That term belongs Arum and has since jump. And when it comes to a Floyd fight, I'd be willing to bet that Arum feeds Manny the exact same "Floyd's scared of you" nonsense he's been feeding the public for years. And when it comes to Arum taking a step aside fee. I'm sure he has more than convinced Manny that if he's not apart of the promotion, Schaefer and Oscar are gonna screw him over.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                Lil Wayne has major stock in Cash Money (Nicki Minaj and Drake). His company is called Young Money and it basically is the reason why there is a Cash Money. Once again son, get your weight up and always remember, everybody that talks boxing isn't just a dumbass, couch potato with a biased opinion.
                He doesn't have major stock in Cash Money. Young Money is just an imprint under Cash Money. And Young Money isn't the reason why there is a Cash Money.

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_Money_Records

                If you notice, Lil Wayne is nowhere listed as an owner, nor as a founder. He's just an artist under Cash Money, that's it. We The Best is a label under Cash Money too, run by DJ Khaled. And you've gotta be crazy if you think Cash Money doesn't really run that. Khaled cannot sign anyone with Birdman giving his stamp of approval. Nor is Khaled an 'owner' under Cash Money.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
                  Yes, he is free, by nature of the way his business his structured. You can argue that he's Haymon's puppet if you want. But you cannot argue that he's not free. Prior to his Showtime deal, he wasn't even locked into HBO.

                  Pacquaio wasn't locked into HBO either. Top Rank was doing things fight by fight. That's how Pacquaio went over to Showtime temporarily, for the Mosley fight. And how do you think Mosley was able to leave Golden Boy just to fight Pacquaio and sign an exclusive one fight deal with Top Rank?

                  But yet...Floyd somehow isn't as free as Shane Mosley was.
                  Floyd is in the middle of a 6 fight deal with Showtime. Which promoter is Showtime clinging on to hard? Yes Floyd is locked in. He may not be signed directly with Golden Boy, but they worked it so he would be one way or another by association. Floyd is seat belted in.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                    Yo would'n't you say the person who has Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj and Drake is Cash Money? If Lil Wayne leaves Cash Money there would be no Cash Money but of course they're family so that won't happen and shouldn't happen but real talk, Young Money is Cash Money and Young Money is Lil Wayne's company!!!!
                    lil wanye is one of the reason why cash money was successful, but he's not the owner of it. birdman is the daddy and lil wanye is the son. there was even a picture of them kissing eachother a few years ago.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Evol View Post
                      haymon is not lil wayne lmao!!!

                      By the way just a little more reading and you'll find that Jay Z and music moguls represent some of the top names in sports right now, they"re even signing kids before they get drafted which shows that a lot of dudes in music are following the Haymon blueprint.

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