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  • RetroSpeed05
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    #791
    Originally posted by puga
    even chavez acknowledges jmm's boxing abilities is superior to his but greater is not an option...youre only saying that becuase floyd's best win diego corrales,
    Idk about that Chavez is kinda overrated, his best wins are Roger Mayweather,
    Camacho, Taylor (after getting schooled and then somehow KO's in the 12th),
    Haugen, Jose Luis Ramirez. He also lost to Whitaker IMO and didn't want a rematch with him when he was offered 7 mill for it. He really has no ATG resume.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #792
      Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
      Idk about that Chavez is kinda overrated, his best wins are Roger Mayweather,
      Camacho, Taylor (after getting schooled and then somehow KO's in the 12th),
      Haugen, Jose Luis Ramirez. He also lost to Whitaker IMO and didn't want a rematch with him when he was offered 7 mill for it. He really has no ATG resume.
      Yep.....Juan is def an ATG and one if not the best Mexican fighter ever

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      • LoadedWraps
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        #793
        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        This guy throws hard,accurate, precise combo's, it is a thing of beauty. He is 40 years old and still throwing tight accurate combo's. Damn Juan got them hands
        I cosign this post, Marquez is one of the best combination and counter punchers the world has seen in many many moons.


        This is late doe larryx, I know you knew about those combinations before last night.

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        • Shambrolic
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          #794
          Originally posted by LarryXXX
          Yep.....Juan is def an ATG and one if not the best Mexican fighter ever
          He's definitely an ATG at least above the 20s and in my estimation the greates fighter from Mexico that ever lived or have been recorded.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #795
            For me, Alexis Arguello is the best combination puncher I've seen.

            But Marquez is up there for sure.

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #796
              Originally posted by PBP
              Anyways I suggest watching Finito Lopez as well. I was young when he was at his best bet I've been going through his resume that past couple of weeks. Another incredible combination puncher.
              Ricardo Lopez throws combinations very similar to Marquez. Which you would expect since both were trained by Nacho.

              Daniel Zaragosa might be another one to take a look at, was his fighting style similar?

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              • sugarsmosley
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                #797
                so Juan is def an atg now, larry a couple months ago you told me he wasnt and said to look at his resume

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                • cabalas
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                  #798
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Ricardo Lopez throws combinations very similar to Marquez. Which you would expect since both were trained by Nacho.

                  Daniel Zaragosa might be another one to take a look at, was his fighting style similar?
                  Yes, Ricardo Lopez and JMM both trained by Nacho Beristain and both among the best throwing combinations on professional boxing. JMM has been one of the best boxers of Mexico but I am not sure if he has surpassed what JCC Sr. accomplished (record on world title fights and total number of fights going undefeated). Ruben Olivares, Salvador Sanchez and same Ricardo Lopez should also be considered in such a discussion to choose the best ever of Mexico.

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                  • STEELHEAD
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                    #799
                    Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko
                    I agree..I also thought Marquez was hurting him early,when the HBO crew was saying they thought he was not..Marquez put on a display yesterday,and showed why he's an atg..
                    yeah HBO crew so one sided.
                    girlfriend hit me side of head with a dishrag from 20ft away because i was yelling at tv. it just about bowled me over.

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                    • jas
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                      #800
                      Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                      so Juan is def an atg now, larry a couple months ago you told me he wasnt and said to look at his resume
                      lol i remember this.

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