The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[Holywarrior]

List Wlad's best wins, a list will do nicely.

Seriously. List Wlad's best wins Weltz. This should be a laugh.

[SBleeder]

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[bojangles1987]

We're just talking pure RESUME STATISTICS at his point, man. Back it up.

There is nothing "resume statistics" about saying Ali beat Frazier twice comprehensively after losing the first fight, and there is nothing "resume statistics" about saying you think Ali won the first fight.

Frazier and Ali almost killed each other in the 3rd fight. Ali has the "victory" but neither guy beat the other. If that 15th round happens one of them probably dies.

[Holywarrior]

You figure being such a KBro fan, he could list them easy.

[Godsfly]

For all it's worth, Frazier was KTFO twice, Wlad wasn't. It's a fairly valid comparison in itself. No need denying it. Wlad was never decked by some complete bums like Mike Bruce or the human punchin bag Oscar Bonavena, who floored Frazier twice and almost scored a TKO victory over your dear overrated hero.

Frazier was chinny as hell, and it's well documented on tape long before Foreman destroyed him twice. Frazier's management were desperately trying to steer him clear of the heaviest hitters during the The Golden Era and did so quite successfully enabling him to carefully build up his 'ATG resume', LOL.

When Ali was stripped of his title, Frazier moreover fails to participate in the 8 man elimination tourney arranged. Instead, Frazier fights the unskilled Buster Mathis and picks up a belt. Fast forward to Jerry Quarry, one of Fraziers career best wins.

Then the first Ali fight. Best fighter Frazier ever faced. But Ali was past prime already and was coming back after his long layoff. Ali hardly trained for Frazier on top of this. IMO Ali won the first Frazier fight and Frazier spent 3 weeks in hospital after the fight ffs.

The rest we all know. Destroyed by Foreman twice and convincingly beat by Ali twice more. Fraziers career after the first Ali fight is mildly put unimpressive.

Is this ATG stuff???

stopped twice by arguably the hardest hitting heavyweight of all time. wlad was stopped by ross (A complete & utter bum) brewster (A bum) sanders (A bum) comparing the guys who stopped wlad to foreman is remedial..........it's below ******ation. also, Bonavena was better then sanders, ross, & brewster (he was also greater then all 3) wlad hasn't fought one hall of fame fighter while frazier has not only fought HOF's he's beaten 4. wlads greatest win is david haye & chris byrd (which is a total flippin joke) when your greatest win is chris bryd (& you're comparing that to frazier) thats below ******.........it's embarrassing and a down right insult to frazier. to your point of trying to make it seem like ali was shot when joe beat him just look at what he did after frazier (Chuvalo, elis, Quarry, foster, & foreman) frazier has a legitimate win over ali. (stop trying to re write history) foreman would have smashed wlads jaw across the arena, while you critique joe for being stopped twice by him (hell, a MUCH lesser fighter in ross did it) whoohahaha

[Weltschmerz]

Sam Peter had a solid chin compared to chinny Frazier, be real. Wlad is a master keeping range and little Joe wouldn't get anywhere near the big athletic specimen. Frazier was evidently very easy to hit and his questionable chin would no way hold up vs the Steelhammer. Wlad would absolutely manhandle Frazier if he would try to clinch too.

If Frazier would do the frog jump he would just be forever hugged and goodnight.

[Holywarrior]

There is nothing "resume statistics" about saying Ali beat Frazier twice comprehensively after losing the first fight, and there is nothing "resume statistics" about saying you think Ali won the first fight.

Frazier and Ali almost killed each other in the 3rd fight. Ali has the "victory" but neither guy beat the other. If that 15th round happens one of them probably dies.

Ali wanted to quit.

[VG_Addict]

Lewis is still better than either Klit.

[Holywarrior]

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[SBleeder]

Sam Peter had a solid chin compared to chinny Frazier, be real. Wlad is a master keeping range and little Joe wouldn't get anywhere near the big athletic specimen. Frazier was evidently very easy to hit and his questionable chin would no way hold up vs the Steelhammer. Wlad would absolutely manhandle Frazier if he would try to clinch too.

If Frazier would do the frog jump he would just be forever hugged and goodnight.

Still waiting on that A+ resume of Wlad.

Come on, Weltz. Best 5 wins. Best 3 wins. Heck, give us one great win.