The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

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  • PainfromUkraine
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    #781
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Jab jab clinch = top 5 best pure boxer in heavyweight history
    Wlad is actually a very skilled heavyweight, especially for his size. Just because he has changed his style since 2004, doesn't negate what he has in his repertoire and what he CAN do and HAS done in the past. He still has great footwork, great jab and left hook, and pole of a right hand. In his prior offensive days, he exhibited a wider range of skills, although this negated the defense. Sure, he doesn't have much of an inside game, but he is an outside fighter...similar to Tyson fighting on the outside. You fight to the effectiveness of your physical dimensions.

    Wlad isn't an Ali in terms of pure skills, but he is still fairly high up there, and definitely near/at the top for the true big, big men.

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      #782
      Originally posted by Lebanon
      Would anyone bet $$$ on little Joe Frazier against Sam Peter?

      I understand siding with the "golden age" gets you pats on the back on internet forums, but would you really bet money on him? I wouldn't.
      Hell no, prime Peter was a mean and brutal fighter and has some boxing chops with power in both hands. Not to mention outweighed Frazier by 40 lbs. These guys are morons.

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        #783
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Frazier's resume literally craps all over Wladimirs.
        There's another gem.

        So I guess in your eyes, one win over Ali is better than a historical, almost ten year heavyweight title run with a dozen good victories during it.

        Wow, I don't think you could possibly be more ignorant unless your screen name was "One more round".

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          #784
          Originally posted by Holywarrior
          Wlad could never box that way Douglas did that night, and Wlad doesn't fight on inside like Holyfield, he holds and Tyson would make Wlad **** himself once Wlad tried to huggy bear him
          Would Tyson do the same as this?





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            #785
            Originally posted by Red Cyclone
            Would Tyson do the same as this?





            They hate to see us on top.

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            • LacedUp
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              #786
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              There's another gem.

              So I guess in your eyes, one win over Ali is better than a historical, almost ten year heavyweight title run with a dozen good victories during it.

              Wow, I don't think you could possibly be more ignorant unless your screen name was "One more round".
              Haha.

              You'll make people laugh at you for quoting that.

              In fact, I made a thread about this. I should bump it so you can see how idiotic everyone thinks you are.

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                #787
                Originally posted by Lebanon
                Would anyone bet $$$ on little Joe Frazier against Sam Peter?

                I understand siding with the "golden age" gets you pats on the back on internet forums, but would you really bet money on him? I wouldn't.
                Wow. Pass me whatever you're smoking, man.


                I would bet every penny I owned on Frazier to destroy Sam Peter.

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                • LacedUp
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                  #788
                  Originally posted by PainfromUkraine
                  Wlad is actually a very skilled heavyweight, especially for his size. Just because he has changed his style since 2004, doesn't negate what he has in his repertoire and what he CAN do and HAS done in the past. He still has great footwork, great jab and left hook, and pole of a right hand. In his prior offensive days, he exhibited a wider range of skills, although this negated the defense. Sure, he doesn't have much of an inside game, but he is an outside fighter...similar to Tyson fighting on the outside. You fight to the effectiveness of your physical dimensions.

                  Wlad isn't an Ali in terms of pure skills, but he is still fairly high up there, and definitely near/at the top for the true big, big men.
                  I don't care what he has in his arsenal - If he doesn't show it in fights against top opposition, it doesn't matter much to me.

                  He stinks the place out as soon as he fights someone half-decent e.g. Povetkin which was the worst display by a heavyweight champion I can ever recall.

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                    #789
                    Originally posted by Red Cyclone
                    Would Tyson do the same as this?





                    Wlad wouldn't go near Tyson like that

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                      #790
                      Originally posted by SBleeder
                      Wow. Pass me whatever you're smoking, man.


                      I would bet every penny I owned on Frazier to destroy Sam Peter.
                      You'd likely lose your money too, James Toney at heavyweight is a harder fight for Peters than Frazier would be.
                      Peters would atleast not have to go looking for Frazier, Joe would just be there allowing Peters to land on him at will I'm really surprised Frazier done all that bobbing and weaving because still yet doing it he still was so easy to hit.

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