The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[Mr.Fantastic]

The only advantage today's HWs would have over them is size. Ali and his generation's fighters were more skilled.

No they weren't. Have you seen the tapes of a lot of those boxers? They weren't all that.

[The Big Dunn]

Wladimir Klitschko transformed heavyweight boxing. His performance against Leapai last night cemented this. His jab, footwork, defense and offense were all immaculate and incomparable. No style works against him.

He proved uppercuts, combos, feinting, swarming etc to be near-worthless (in the case of his opponents) and unnecessary (in the case of himself). Thus by his perfect minimalistic-seeming technique he actually shows how bad previous generations of boxers were who could win with such techniques like feinting and combos.

Wladimir is the blueprint for what strategies work (in his case) and don't work (in his opponents' case). Wladimir Klitschko is the measuring stick for champions of the past and future.

wlad was so great that nearly half of the people that tuned into the fight stopped watching before he got the KO.

Think about that for a little bit.

[M Bison]

Well now you've gone done won the argument...

Can't win an argument with ******s who think they're opinion is a definitive answer, this isn't maths we're talking about...
The answer in boxing isn't the same, deal with it.

List Wlad's best wins, a list will do nicely.

David Haye, Tony Thompson (x2), Chris Byrd, Lamon Brewster, Calvin Brock, Ray Mercer

You figure being such a KBro fan, he could list them easy.

Fact the facts you'd be sucking off Tony Thompson if the Klitschkos weren't around because he would of likely had an equal reign the Klitschko brothers did, in his prime he is better than a hype job who didn't even earn his gold medal the legit way.

You'd figure the nostalgiatards would be able to agree that not all the eras of the HW division were as solid as you seem to think they were.

Sam Peter had a solid chin compared to chinny Frazier, be real. Wlad is a master keeping range and little Joe wouldn't get anywhere near the big athletic specimen. Frazier was evidently very easy to hit and his questionable chin would no way hold up vs the Steelhammer. Wlad would absolutely manhandle Frazier if he would try to clinch too.

If Frazier would do the frog jump he would just be forever hugged and goodnight.

Peters managed to go long enough with Vitali Klitschko that is something Frazier would not of done the proof in that being when Joe finally fought a big puncher (G.Foreman) sooner he was up he was down on the canvas again.

[Holywarrior]

That's a person's opinion though. Looking at some of the ATG top 10 and their resume, they're not all that either with the exception of very few.

List your top 10 then? Wlad is an ATG but to rate him over Frazier is lulzy

[Holywarrior]

Fact the facts you'd be sucking off Tony Thompson if the Klitschkos weren't around because he would of likely had an equal reign the Klitschko brothers did, in his prime he is better than a hype job who didn't even earn his gold medal the legit way.

Tony Thompson No

[Godsfly]

to be honest.........if you think that wlads resume


Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov.


is greater then fraziers resume


bob foster, jerry quarry, George Chuvalo, muhammad ali (all 4 hall of famers) jimmy elis, Oscar Bonavena.

then you need to be mentally checked for a brain tumor...........


i don't know what to say anymore.

[Mr.Fantastic]

List your top 10 then? Wlad is an ATG but to rate him over Frazier is lulzy

What's the criteria?

Frazier is one of the most exciting boxers at HW I've ever seen. However, we have to be realistic here, he beat Ali which was great and all but apart from that, his rating doesn't justify it.

[Holywarrior]

What's the criteria?

Frazier is one of the most exciting boxers at HW I've ever seen. However, we have to be realistic here, he beat Ali which was great and all but apart from that, his rating doesn't justify it.

Resume and ability. Give me your top 10

[M Bison]

wlad was so great that nearly half of the people that tuned into the fight stopped watching before he got the KO.

Think about that for a little bit.

Bit like how your Floyd slurpers didn't tune in to support your lover Jailweather?
Were they watching illegally?
Do they not want to support TBE?

[SBleeder]

Yet Ali and his whole generation were cruiser weights at their best. In fact, their whole bunch wouldn't even stand a chance in 2014.

Liston, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Chuvalo, Lyle, Young, Shavers, Terrell, Williams... yeah, that's a real pack of cruiserweights.