The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

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  • Mr.Fantastic
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    #901
    Originally posted by pigsfly
    whooooooooooooooooooooooohahaahahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    jajajajajaja
    Deep inside you're crying. The belts around this guy.....



    One day y our savior will come.

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    • SBleeder
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      #902
      Originally posted by Weltz
      Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov.
      Cruiserweight who threw three punches per round due to a stubbed toe

      Never fought outside of Germany

      Midget

      Started at LHW

      LOL

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      • VG_Addict
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        #903
        Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust
        To those saying that Foreman would sash Povetkin because the latter had a hard fight with Huck.

        Foremand doesn't have the quarter of the speed that Huck has.

        If Foreman and Povetkin were to fight, you should ask yourself : would Foremand be able to land at least 7-8 hard punches on Povetkin's head? I don't think so.
        Povetkin is way too athletic for Foreman. Just look at Povetkin's footwork, balance and feints. This guy is clearly an elite boxer!

        I am a Wladimir Klitschko supporter but I really believe that Povetkin can give it to him if he suddenly gets old/ doesn't apply the right strategy.

        When it comes to the Charr-Povetkin fight, tell me I am crazy but I believe Povetkin would struggle more against Charr then Foreman

        -------> Why do I believe in this controversial statement?

        Well, Charr means PURE PRESSURE ( when he wants to put it) and a solid defence with his shell guard. To land flush on Charr you must throw 3-4 accurate punches. The only current boxers that would land clean on Charr in less thant 3 punches* would be Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye because of their very fine skills.

        So there is clearly a danger that Povetkin gets tired in the second half of the fight if Charr puts pressure as he 's used to do it masterfully.

        Still Povetkin is 60-40 favorite to me though. Apart from his defence and stamina, he outclasses Charr in every department ( speed , reflexes and a little more power). Povetkin fights very well on his frontfoot, but will he be able to fight on his frontfoot on fight night? That is, to me, the biggest question that we should ask ourselves for this fight!
        I know this post is from many pages back, but I just had to reply.

        Did you seriously say Charr has solid defense? Charr's defense is terrible. Sure, he has a tight guard, but he has zero head movement. I would pick Wilder to knock Charr out.

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        • Godsfly
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          #904
          Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
          Wlad got his ass whooped, so what?!?!

          Like a true champion, he got up to fight again. Look how hard work pays off. Now the #1 HW champion of the world. Fuck Yea!

          I'm not trolling. If I wanted to troll I'd go a different route.
          trolling = using the race card when theres a debate going on. you added absolutely nothing to the discussion. all you did was pull out the race card (from being butt hurt of how badly wlads nut huggers are being schooled) thats trolling in my book. also. we are talking about wlad compared to great heavyweights (who said wlad wasn't the number one heavyweight of today?) thats not even the debate. when you try to step over other fighters who've done a hell of lot more (& you even go as far as trying to re write history) of course there will be those who will gladly take you up on teaching you the ins and outs of fighters.

          has nothing to do with race or nationality in which you brought up.
          Last edited by Godsfly; 05-29-2014, 02:51 PM.

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          • Holywarrior
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            #905
            Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
            I don't give him hardly any credit for Mormeck but you do realize Mormeck was an accomplished CW right? He wasn't a bum like people portray him.
            He isn't a bum but the fact that he is a top 10 win for Wlad speaks volumes

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            • Mr.Fantastic
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              #906
              Originally posted by pigsfly
              trolling = using the race card when theres a debate going on. you added absolutely nothing to the discussion. all you did was pull out the race card (from being butt hurt of how badly wlads nut huggers are being schooled) thats trolling in my book. also. we are talking about wlad compared to great heavyweights (who said wlad wasn't the number one heavyweight of today?) thats not even the debate. when you try to step over other fighters who's done a hell of lot more (& you even go as far as trying to re write history) of course there will be those who will gladly take you up on teaching you the ins and outs of fighters.
              Excuse me for not being naive and not see the sport for what it really is.

              Wlad is an ATG HW, that's my opinion. What's funny is what you guys criticize Wlad for, give props to other greats.

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              • Weltschmerz
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                #907
                Originally posted by SBleeder
                Cruiserweight who threw three punches per round due to a stubbed toe

                Never fought outside of Germany

                Midget

                Started at LHW

                LOL
                Yet Ali and his whole generation were cruiser weights at their best. In fact, their whole bunch wouldn't even stand a chance in 2014.

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                • VG_Addict
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                  #908
                  Originally posted by Weltz
                  Yet Ali and his whole generation were cruiser weights at their best. In fact, their whole bunch wouldn't even stand a chance in 2014.
                  The only advantage today's HWs would have over them is size. Ali and his generation's fighters were more skilled.

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                    #909
                    Originally posted by Holywarrior
                    He isn't a bum but the fact that he is a top 10 win for Wlad speaks volumes
                    That's a person's opinion though. Looking at some of the ATG top 10 and their resume, they're not all that either with the exception of very few.
                    Last edited by Mr.Fantastic; 05-29-2014, 02:58 PM.

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                    • Holywarrior
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                      #910
                      Originally posted by Weltz
                      Haye, Povetkin, Chagaev, Byrd, Ibragimov.


                      Originally posted by VG_Addict
                      Floyd and Wlad aren't even remotely comparable. Even without fighting all the challenges in his weight class, Floyd has fought much, MUCH better opponents than Wlad. Who has Wlad fought that compares to Marquez, Corrales, and Judah?
                      Nobody. Not even close

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