Comments Thread For: Angel Garcia on Hererra: You Have To Beat The Champ

[FerFAL]

I thought Herrera won a decisive and clear victory. He constantly beat Danny to the punch all night long. Moreover, he was the busier and more accurate puncher of the two; Especially with the jabs.

In addition, he hurt Garcia multiple times in the fight in rounds 9 and 12. Herrera showed great ring generalship with his upper body defense. Danny's punches were wide, slow and often missing their intended target.

Also, Mauricio was constantly backing Garcia up because Danny was frustrated as he couldn't time or neutralize Herrera's jab,

Herrera clearly one. Anyone that says otherwise is either blind or knows nothing about boxing. There just isnt anything debatable about the more accurate punching, better defense and timing, resulting in a clear written testimony of the fight which anyone could see in Garcia's damaged face.
Very sad to see such a robbery. I watched Garcia's post fight interview. He does seem to have a bit of shame left becuase while officialy he won, his voice and body language said otherwise. He knows very well that he lost that fight.

[mistermartin]

I like Danny, but from here on out it's going to be tough sledding. He showed some vulnerabilities in there with Herrera that will cost him against a number of fighters.

A number of fighters like who? Bedstead has a very awkward style. He has good timing & a long jab. His style reminds me of Carlos molina. But he fights at 54. There's no one else in the 40-47 landscape w/ that pesky style. Maybe mallinaggi could duplicate it. Who knows. Every fighter has weaknesses to improve upon. & Danny learned more about his. He's a young fighter w/ time to tighten them up. I simply saw a bad style match up. Hererra made good case for himself but that wasn't a championship performance in my mind. There are plenty of good fights for him....pleeenty! People forget Danny has had scares all along the way....san buzzed him...khan was beating him...had him bloody....morales was timing & jabbing the ah**** out of him in the first fight....he's always been flawed. But he has a certain intangible that gets him by. Hererra fought well but I am certainly not upset at the decision. He's earned his gift decision & his place at the table.

[northstar]

A number of fighters like who? Bedstead has a very awkward style. He has good timing & a long jab. His style reminds me of Carlos molina. But he fights at 54. There's no one else in the 40-47 landscape w/ that pesky style. Maybe mallinaggi could duplicate it. Who knows. Every fighter has weaknesses to improve upon. & Danny learned more about his. He's a young fighter w/ time to tighten them up. I simply saw a bad style match up. Hererra made good case for himself but that wasn't a championship performance in my mind. There are plenty of good fights for him....pleeenty! People forget Danny has had scares all along the way....san buzzed him...khan was beating him...had him bloody....morales was timing & jabbing the ah**** out of him in the first fight....he's always been flawed. But he has a certain intangible that gets him by. Hererra fought well but I am certainly not upset at the decision. He's earned his gift decision & his place at the table.

Let me ask you a question: do Malinaggi and Maidana have the same style? They both were able to trouble Broner correct? What's going to happen if Danny were to face a guy like Provodnokov? What if he can't hurt him?

[John Barron]

Nah.. far from a robbery. Debatable...yes. I've never seen a champion lose bc he was being out-jabbed. Hererra did good work & made it an ugly,dirty & uncomfortable fight for Danny. Had he totally picked him apart I'd agree. But he didn't...he put on an ugly Carlos molina type fight. Danny got away w/ one....that's all to it. & actually this helps him. Bc Hererra's style was complicated & not just some walk over. Keeps him on his toes & reveals weaknesses. Danny has to develop an inside fight game. & learn to become a bully wen a guy is tryna rough him up. But this doesn't hurt boxing...not this decision. He'll move on & live to see another day.

no he didn't. molina is an ugly and very sloppy charge and hold type of a fighter, i hate watching him. herrera was giving danny different looks, he was mixing it up round by round, and it was actually a joy to see him outbox the **** outta danny with just the jab.

i don't get it. what's the point of giving these guys who can't punch title fights if they're just gonna make excuses like "well he didn't throw power punches" "well he didn't knock him down." "well he didn't knock the champ out."

garcia looked lost from the start and was on his bike in the later rounds. it was so blatant. i honestly can't see how someone could make a case for danny winning this when nobody can even find highlights of what he did.

[heihaci]

Angel: " I always talk the truth"

[Hougigo]

What Angel is saying is ridiculous.

It's like saying the Pacers would have to beat the Heat by 20 for it to count as a win since the Heat won the title last year

lol, when playing the champs, you have to beat them by the spread, not by scoring more points.

[mistermartin]

no he didn't. molina is an ugly and very sloppy charge and hold type of a fighter, i hate watching him. herrera was giving danny different looks, he was mixing it up round by round, and it was actually a joy to see him outbox the **** outta danny with just the jab.

i don't get it. what's the point of giving these guys who can't punch title fights if they're just gonna make excuses like "well he didn't throw power punches" "well he didn't knock him down." "well he didn't knock the champ out."

garcia looked lost from the start and was on his bike in the later rounds. it was so blatant. i honestly can't see how someone could make a case for danny winning this when nobody can even find highlights of what he did.

I'm not sure wtf ur talking about....Hererra didn't give "diff looks round by round" his entire gameplan was jab to the body, circle...jab to the body...circle...jab to the head...headbutt...smother...back to the jab to the body...body...body body....headbutt...smother hold...rabbit punch...inside dirty fight...wash...rinse...repeat. Only thing he did differently is go from circling to stalking. I'm not even condemning his style or tactics. I think a complete fighter can deal w/ any tactic...dirty or clean. Point is. The rounds were close. & standby the idea that a guy is not goin in as the underdog in a fight designed to showcase the other guy & win rounds w/ a jab....especially to the body. While his opponent throws power shots. Is wut it is ****-boy.

[Mike D]

lol, when playing the champs, you have to beat them by the spread, not by scoring more points.

It reminds me of a fantasy football league I played in a long ass time ago. The home team would get an automatic 10 free points to start the game (lol), so even if the road team won the game itself 150-145....you still lost by 5 points

[mistermartin]

Let me ask you a question: do Malinaggi and Maidana have the same style? They both were able to trouble Broner correct? What's going to happen if Danny were to face a guy like Provodnokov? What if he can't hurt him?

I get the pint ur tryna make. I understand. I honestly didn't think paulie gave broner any trouble at all. But i still understand ur point. The thing is every fighter has to deal w/ the lil nuances each opp brings to the table. A guy like Provo isn't very complicated IMO. He's very strong but very hitttable & much more tailor-made for Garcia. What makes Hererra interesting or even so crafty w/ his boxing is the fact that he doesn't pack power. So he boxes well. There aren't many guys w/ that ability. & the other side is danny learns a great deal from this bout. People tend to forget that the LM fight is the best danny has looked as a fighter. B4 then he looked shaky vs khan...shaky vs Morales...shaky vs zab at the end. It's the reason nobody believed in him all those times. & I assure u he was going to get the short end of 1 or a couple of those fights had it gone to decision....Only thing is...he closed the show & took it from the judges.

[northstar]

I get the pint ur tryna make. I understand. I honestly didn't think paulie gave broner any trouble at all. But i still understand ur point. The thing is every fighter has to deal w/ the lil nuances each opp brings to the table. A guy like Provo isn't very complicated IMO. He's very strong but very hitttable & much more tailor-made for Garcia. What makes Hererra interesting or even so crafty w/ his boxing is the fact that he doesn't pack power. So he boxes well. There aren't many guys w/ that ability. & the other side is danny learns a great deal from this bout. People tend to forget that the LM fight is the best danny has looked as a fighter. B4 then he looked shaky vs khan...shaky vs Morales...shaky vs zab at the end. It's the reason nobody believed in him all those times. & I assure u he was going to get the short end of 1 or a couple of those fights had it gone to decision....Only thing is...he closed the show & took it from the judges.

Provo might be hittable but what if Danny can't hurt him. Danny doesn't have the work rate of guys like Herrera or Alvarado, nor dôes he have the speed and defense of a fighter like Mayweather. It's because of those things I think he would struggle against a fighter like Provo.

Two, some seem to think that a Danny vs Provo fight would be a repeat of Danny vs matthyse. Provo and matthyse are very different. Matthyse, although he is a big puncher, is far more methodical and less active; that favored Danny's style more.