Comments Thread For: Ward's Trainer: Golovkin-Chavez = Picking and Choosing

[frantic fighter]

You don't remember correctly, and it was just a few weeks ago. You've made more posts in this thead than anyone else while being very poorly informed on the topic. That's some windup, troll ****. Here's some links for your education:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/2/5/5383918/daniel-geale-explains-why-he-didnt-accept-the-gennady-golovkin-fight-hbo-boxing-news

http://www.boxingscene.com/peter-quillin-talks-golovkin-targets-sergio-martinez--58653

https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixSI/st...95927459868672

So I'm suppose to take the word of Golovkin's promoter even though I Know that Golovkin has a contract with HBO and that they don't work with GBP. Also if Golovkin's representatives were really interested in stepping up his opposition level one would assume that they would be able to move a fight up a week or back a week.To me this seems like a bunch of smoke and mirrors to keep up the whole most avoided man in boxing label and thats all okay,but don't attempt to sale me chicken **** and call it chicken salad.Also since his team is willing to face a GBP fighter than why not Lara and don't say because he doesn't have a title when he has fought Rosado and Ishida in the past.

[bojangles1987]

This is exactly why I have turned from a Ward fan to a critical fan of his.

The guy cleaned out the super six, was offered a huge mega fight against the only top 68lbs not to be in the super six and he turns it down.
Then he's offered a huge rematch fight with Froch in England, and he also turns it down. He didn't want Stevenson, won't move up to 75, fights a very limited Rodriguez, and then spends his time complaining about guys at 60 who won't fight him

I'm simply tired of hearing from this guy

What's making it bad is the blatant hypocrisy he and Hunter are always speaking. Both Froch and Golovkin have been criticized by Ward and Hunter now for wanting a Chavez fight, when he wanted to fight Chavez before both of them.

He's not fighting, he's always complaining, he's criticizing other fighters, he's always trying to break away from his promoter, what the hell is there to support any more? He needs to shut up and fight.

[daggum]

This is exactly why I have turned from a Ward fan to a critical fan of his.

The guy cleaned out the super six, was offered a huge mega fight against the only top 68lbs not to be in the super six and he turns it down.
Then he's offered a huge rematch fight with Froch in England, and he also turns it down. He didn't want Stevenson, won't move up to 75, fights a very limited Rodriguez, and then spends his time complaining about guys at 60 who won't fight him

I'm simply tired of hearing from this guy

i think you explained it perfectly. also doesn't help that he hugs and grabs non-stop. if you hug and grab against other top guys people overlook it but when you duck the best in your division and hug and grab bums it's a joke.

[frantic fighter]

well he came back from injury to fight the lineal champ. you know the same guy you were just hyping up as a great win 5 minutes ago...

Major injury versus a hand fracture,9 or 10 months of inactivity versus a year plus.....

[HeroBando]

So I'm suppose to take the word of Golovkin's promoter even though I Know that Golovkin has a contract with HBO and that they don't work with GBP. Also if Golovkin's representatives were really interested in stepping up his opposition level one would assume that they would be able to move a fight up a week or back a week.To me this seems like a bunch of smoke and mirrors to keep up the whole most avoided man in boxing label and thats all okay,but don't attempt to sale me chicken **** and call it chicken salad.Also since his team is willing to face a GBP fighter than why not Lara and don't say because he doesn't have a title when he has fought Rosado and Ishida in the past.

Damn both misinformed and thick. Bud, both of the Quillin links are well before GBP was kicked out from HBO, check the dates. GGG ended up fighting Proksa after Quillin passed on the title shot on HBO main event. He still has not featured in a main event even on Showtime. And this was before he got the NDam shot, before NDam was even promoted.

You don't follow boxing much, eh? Dates are not so easily moved, especially at MSG, cause some punk that just passed 2 months earlier has UFC on TV that night. Here's Geale passing on Monaco just prior:

http://www.boxingscene.com/geale-ready-sign-contract-golovkin-fight--72727

[deanrw]

I been saying this since this weekend. And the only way you disagree with anything Hunter said is if you have GGG's balls firmly planted on your forehead.

BTW, haven't read one comment yet. But I guarantee you GGG's fanboys are making the; Ward is only talking cause GGG has an opponent, Ward needs to move up, Ward is boring, Chavez Jr is a bigger draw, blah, blah, blah.

I see it differently. Both GGG's and Ward's people are hypocrites. You have GGG saying he is not willing to go to 168 yet, but will for Chavez. You have Ward's people telling him he gets no credit for fighting Chavez, right after they were trying to land a Chavez fight themselves and boasted about how great of a fight it would be.

So I see this as fanboys, like yourself, trying to bend and mend the sh|t that is happening to make it look good in your favor, just like GGG and Ward's camp are doing.

[koolbreez12]

Are you serious?

They [Golovkin's team] of course had no intention on leaving the MW division because there are more lucrative fights at MW. Fights with Sturm in Germany would be huge, the shot at the lineal champ Martinez is another. Yes, they had no reason at that time to want to jump to 168.

However, when the cash cow within those divisions calls your name, you jump on it and take the fight. Regardless of what you believe the more lucrative fight for GGG is the Chavez fight.

And don't think for a second that Ward wouldn't change his tune about Chavez if Chavez had called him out. Ward would leap for joy if his name was mentioned.

Don't pretend a Ward fight, #2 P4P fighter wouldn't be lucrative for GGG or Chavez. Ward has been ready to fight either one, but neither are ready for Ward apparently. If this isn't a blatant duck I don't know what is. My tune could change a little if he fought Ward after Chavez, but have a feeling a won't. GGG n Co know the deal

[daggum]

Major injury versus a hand fracture,9 or 10 months of inactivity versus a year plus.....

ok thats fine but why isn't he fighting stevenson now then? he's got the bum out of the way and stevenson was ready. did ward hurt himself again while hugging for dear life?

[JJRod]

Don't pretend a Ward fight, #2 P4P fighter wouldn't be lucrative for GGG or Chavez. Ward has been ready to fight either one, but neither are ready for Ward apparently. If this isn't a blatant duck I don't know what is. My tune could change a little if he fought Ward after Chavez, but have a feeling a won't. GGG n Co know the deal

p4p means nothing.
Sturm is a bigger fight for GGG, so is Martinez, and you're fooling yourself if Chavez isn't more lucrative than Ward.

[daggum]

Don't pretend a Ward fight, #2 P4P fighter wouldn't be lucrative for GGG or Chavez. Ward has been ready to fight either one, but neither are ready for Ward apparently. If this isn't a blatant duck I don't know what is. My tune could change a little if he fought Ward after Chavez, but have a feeling a won't. GGG n Co know the deal

no one likes ward. his ratings suck. i'm sure hbo would pay them well but then again they would make just as much or more fighting each other, and they don't have to worry about ward's hometown refs and constant clinching. its smart to freeze out the cheaters and leave them by the wayside complaining.