Comments Thread For: Ward's Trainer: Golovkin-Chavez = Picking and Choosing

[koolbreez12]

hmmm lets see never? stevenson said he would fight him at 168. the same exact thing dawson just did but ward turned him down to fight rodriguez lol. he's a joke.

He was inactive for a year and you expect his first fight back to be against Stevenson? And please point to a link where Stevenson said this? Not saying your lying but would like to see the reference my self

[Hougigo]

He was inactive for a year and you expect his first fight back to be against Stevenson? And please point to a link where Stevenson said this? Not saying your lying but would like to see the reference my self

When is he not going to be off for a year?
Dude needs to swallow his pride and finish his contract.
He's hurting himself by not fighting

[deanrw]

ok thats fine but why isn't he fighting stevenson now then? he's got the bum out of the way and stevenson was ready. did ward hurt himself again while hugging for dear life?

It is all about Risk vs Reward for them. Why people are holding GGG and Ward on high pedestals I have no idea. Yes GGG is willing to fight Chavez at 168. If Chavez could not fight at 168 and said he was moving to 175, Ward would be right there suddenly saying he would move up fight him at 175.

If anything Ward needs to move up more than GGG does right now. Ward basically has no more options at 168. Golovkin is not in a much better position, as only the fringe contender guys in his division are willing to fight him for a decent paycheck.

[koolbreez12]

p4p means nothing.
Sturm is a bigger fight for GGG, so is Martinez, and you're fooling yourself if Chavez isn't more lucrative than Ward.

Sturm? Really? Stop it man. Chavez ya probably slightly more lucrative, but don't pretend Ward fight has no draw to the point is not worth fighting him. And yes P4P does matter, who doesn't wanna beat the best? GGG knows he can't beat Ward at this stage in life or else he'd be willing to fight him In the attempt to become the next P4P'r. A duck is a duck my friend.

[hitking]

I see it differently. Both GGG's and Ward's people are hypocrites. You have GGG saying he is not willing to go to 168 yet, but will for Chavez. You have Ward's people telling him he gets no credit for fighting Chavez, right after they were trying to land a Chavez fight themselves and boasted about how great of a fight it would be.

So I see this as fanboys, like yourself, trying to bend and mend the sh|t that is happening to make it look good in your favor, just like GGG and Ward's camp are doing.

The point you're missing is that when it came to Ward, GGG backed off the claim that he would fight anybody from 54-68. The excuse of "wanting to clean up middleweight" before moving up. OK cool. But when the Chavez Jr opportunity came along, he's willing to go to 168.

That's not the case with Ward. So what if he wanted the Jr fight. Who wouldn't? Jr is probably the biggest draw in that weight range. What you're missing is that Ward isn't saying he'll fight Jr and not GGG. He's saying he'll fight Jr, GGG, and anybody els who wants it at 68. That's the difference.

[daggum]

When is he not going to be off for a year?
Dude needs to swallow his pride and finish his contract.
He's hurting himself by not fighting

well that makes me a little happy

[koolbreez12]

When is he not going to be off for a year?
Dude needs to swallow his pride and finish his contract.
He's hurting himself by not fighting

I completely agree, it's pissin me off too. Missing out on some good fights and times a tickin. I'm in no way justifying his inactivity.

[Kagami Taiga]

truth is golovkin and his team are being very hypocritical. moving up to fight chavez will do alot for him as far as money and even star power i guess. but his resume will still be **** and he will have fought in a division that he said he wasnt ready to fight in.

[HeroBando]

The point you're missing is that when it came to Ward, GGG backed off the claim that he would fight anybody from 54-68. The excuse of "wanting to clean up middleweight" before moving up. OK cool. But when the Chavez Jr opportunity came along, he's willing to go to 168.

That's not the case with Ward. So what if he wanted the Jr fight. Who wouldn't? Jr is probably the biggest draw in that weight range. What you're missing is that Ward isn't saying he'll fight Jr and not GGG. He's saying he'll fight Jr, GGG, and anybody els who wants it at 68. That's the difference.

Ward would probably go to 175 for Chavez but not for Stevenson, Kovalev or earlier champ Dawson, like he'd go to 160 for Floyd but not GGG or Sergio

[deanrw]

The point you're missing is that when it came to Ward, GGG backed off the claim that he would fight anybody from 54-68. The excuse of "wanting to clean up middleweight" before moving up. OK cool. But when the Chavez Jr opportunity came along, he's willing to go to 168.

That's not the case with Ward. So what if he wanted the Jr fight. Who wouldn't? Jr is probably the biggest draw in that weight range. What you're missing is that Ward isn't saying he'll fight Jr and not GGG. He's saying he'll fight Jr, GGG, and anybody els who wants it at 68. That's the difference.

Read my post I just made to Daggum above