Is Joe Frazier really an ATG?

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  • Elroy1
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    #231
    Depends on what the definition of ATG is?

    Rated against the competition of his day he was great, and given that's what he should be judged against, then yes, Joe Frazier is an ATG!

    There are a certain group of individual, the "Old Time Nut Bag", that like to pretend that an ATG could be great in any subsequent era. Obviously this makes no sense whatsoever.

    To be nice to Frazier for a change, all I'll say is Joe DEFINITELY falls into this category.

    There is not a single HW I can think of he would be able to beat today who is relevant and I am unsure about his performance at Cruiser either, how that would go.

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    • IEsickboy
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      #232
      Originally posted by tangalog2200
      the fight of the century is the thrilla in manila...

      ali won that one...
      That is incorrect. Look it up, not hard to find.

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        #233
        Originally posted by tangalog2200
        the fight of the century is the thrilla in manila...

        ali won that one...

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          #234
          Originally posted by tangalog2200
          the fight of the century is the thrilla in manila...

          ali won that one...

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          • Elroy1
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            #235
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza
            Those fights were both rubbish.

            The first one featured a 1 dimensional powerless dwarf overwhelming a reactionless Ali who'se hugging was only eclipsed 43 years later in Povetkin vs Klitschko.

            The second featured the same 2 jokers but this time grossly out of shape.

            If that was FOTC, I'd never watch boxing.

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            • Mr Ribtickler
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              #236
              Dumbest question I've seen here so far. And that's saying something!

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                #237
                Originally posted by Elroy1
                Those fights were both rubbish.

                The first one featured a 1 dimensional powerless dwarf overwhelming a reactionless Ali who'se hugging was only eclipsed 43 years later in Povetkin vs Klitschko.

                The second featured the same 2 jokers but this time grossly out of shape.

                If that was FOTC, I'd never watch boxing.
                No, that was the actual name of the fight.

                "The Fight of The Century"

                That's what the name of the first fight was in 1971. Before the fight even happened.

                You know, like Mayweather-Canelo was "The One"

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                  #238
                  I would say HOF, but not ATG.

                  I would compare him a bit to Rid**** Bowe, just Bowe was bigger, stronger and had a much better chin.

                  The thing with Frazier, he had the style to beat Ali, which shows you Ali was very beatable matched against the right opponent for the job.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #239
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    No, that was the actual name of the fight.

                    "The Fight of The Century"

                    That's what the name of the first fight was in 1971. Before the fight even happened.

                    You know, like Mayweather-Canelo was "The One"
                    Don't bite the bait! Don't bite the bait! There's a hook under there!

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                    • Elroy1
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                      #240
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      No, that was the actual name of the fight.

                      "The Fight of The Century"

                      That's what the name of the first fight was in 1971. Before the fight even happened.

                      You know, like Mayweather-Canelo was "The One"
                      Was it really billed as that?

                      Because I always thought it got labelled that after?

                      Not saying your wrong, just I'm not the only one who'se figured this.

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