Why do some posters keep saying Floyd should fight GGG or Martinez at 154?

[Weebler I]

There aren't very many examples though are there.

And both of the examples you've used came in multiple Lbs lower than the weight class they were campaigning in and gradually came down any way.

Do you have an example for a fighter going straight from a weight class they've been at for an extended amount of time then going straight to a lower weight?

Even if you do they're exceptions more than rules.

I wasn't saying it's a rule, just that it has been done with success.

Dagoom was arguing it couldn't be done with success, but when faced with examples he would find a "but" and would continue to do so were I to bring up the likes of Zab Judah, Nonito Donaire, Danny Garcia, Curtis Stevens, James Kirkland etc. I'm sure he'd find something with all of them, just as he did with two-weight world champ Mundine.

The whole thread is misconceived anyway, Floyd made it very clear he doesn't care about draining fighters or not getting credit. We saw that in the Canelo build-up, his attitude is to take whatever advantage he can get. If it's Golovkin's dream to fight Floyd and he says he would go to 154, that's not going to bother Floyd one jot, ditto Martinez.

[soul_survivor]

Wow survivor has a point. I didn't think of it that way.

I know

I don't remember Floyd saying 54, I do remember him saying something about a weak ass catchweight when he was 1st asked about the potential matchup, but I could be wrong. A link would be cool though.

It's youtube, can look for it

Floyd Mayweather never had Sergio Martinez in his radar. Nor has anyone asked Floyd about GGG and Andre Ward.

There was a time though he was asked at a post-fight conference about Sergio Martinez. And that was the first and last time anyone has ever came to asking him about Sergio. Floyd said he could possibly fight him but that Sergio wouldn't be hitting him with all that 'wild a$$ **** he throws.'

Since that specific time, no one has ever asked him about Sergio Martinez face to face again. The closest anyone has gotten to bringing Martinez's name up was through asking Mayweather Sr, and Roger Mayweather.

So what's your point?

you yourself said Floyd entertained the idea, someone on this forum months back posted a video. Might be the same one you're going on about. So you are trying to dispute me by saying I'm right, great work genius.

why the *** have u brought up Ward? And Floyd hasn't had many interviews since GGG claim that he'd be willing to move down to 154. Anyway, since when has Floyd done what he says he will?

STFU Radioraheem, I know who you are, you ass licker

[Foreign Soil]

Cotto is better then anyone on GGG'S resume

Cotto is undersized at 154 even, he couldn't hang with very many at 160.

[Vasyl’s dad]

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Originally Posted by FloydsLostBalls

Floyd fought there three times is why. Manny did once, didn't like it and said he'd never return.


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So what? They are the same size! So Pacquaio gets a pass because 'he doesn't like it' but Mayweather doesn't get a pass if he isn't interested in fighting again at 154?

Double standard city.

Again, Floyd continues to fight there. his last fight was there. Its not a double standard when 1 guy keeps fighting there.


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[Spray_resistant]

Every single person in the forum KNOWS the fight had nothing to do with legacy or a spot at a p4p list. Floyd had been off the ring for two years and if I remember correctly he fought #3 p4p fighter after that. Given that JMM was in everyone's p4p list. Pacquiao was out for a year and who did he fight?

He could have fought anyone he wanted and he picked JMM because of the trouble he had given Pac obviously to show his superiority but a decent WW off of a couple good wins would have been nice. As for Pac, he was ko'd last time out so he picked a good styled match for his comeback which is understandable.

[IronDanHamza]

I wasn't saying it's a rule, just that it has been done with success.

Dagoom was arguing it couldn't be done with success, but when faced with examples he would find a "but" and would continue to do so were I to bring up the likes of Zab Judah, Nonito Donaire, Danny Garcia, Curtis Stevens, James Kirkland etc. I'm sure he'd find something with all of them, just as he did with two-weight world champ Mundine.

The whole thread is misconceived anyway, Floyd made it very clear he doesn't care about draining fighters or not getting credit. We saw that in the Canelo build-up, his attitude is to take whatever advantage he can get. If it's Golovkin's dream to fight Floyd and he says he would go to 154, that's not going to bother Floyd one jot, ditto Martinez.

The only one of those that are comparable to Golovkin moving down to 154 is Judah and even then Judah started his career at 140.

I understand your point on the second point. We know that's the case with Floyd. What I don't understand is why the fans want to see it (If he were to be drained which is extremely possible.)

[IronDanHamza]

I know



It's youtube, can look for it



So what's your point?

you yourself said Floyd entertained the idea, someone on this forum months back posted a video. Might be the same one you're going on about. So you are trying to dispute me by saying I'm right, great work genius.

why the *** have u brought up Ward? And Floyd hasn't had many interviews since GGG claim that he'd be willing to move down to 154. Anyway, since when has Floyd done what he says he will?

STFU Radioraheem, I know who you are, you ass licker

I don't recall Mayweather saying he'd fight Martinez at 154.

I remember in the Mosley post fight press conference when asked about Martinez he said something along the lines of "He's an option" but never specifically at 154.

Not saying it's not true but that I don't recall it.

[radioraheem]

Again, Floyd continues to fight there. his last fight was there. Its not a double standard when 1 guy keeps fighting there.

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It's a double standard when you criticize one fighter for not wanting to fight at 154 lbs, all the while NOT criticizing his equivalent at the same time. Keep in mind, both fighters are basically the same damn size.

Yet no one criticizes Pacquaio for 'not taking on greater risk.'

You guys hate to call a spade, a spade. It would be different if you criticized both of them at the same time. I'd respect your opinion/criticism a lot more.

[Weebler I]

What I don't understand is why the fans want to see it (If he were to be drained which is extremely possible.)

Because the probable alternative match-up is watching Guerrero or Maidana plod around a ring after Floyd. I think most people would rather watch Golovkin or Martinez have a crack at it (irrespective of the perceived risk of drainage).

[radioraheem]

I know



It's youtube, can look for it



So what's your point?

you yourself said Floyd entertained the idea, someone on this forum months back posted a video. Might be the same one you're going on about. So you are trying to dispute me by saying I'm right, great work genius.

why the *** have u brought up Ward? And Floyd hasn't had many interviews since GGG claim that he'd be willing to move down to 154. Anyway, since when has Floyd done what he says he will?

STFU Radioraheem, I know who you are, you ass licker

It wasn't an idea that he himself was pursuing. It was an answer to a simple question asked.

I brought up Andre Ward to bring up the fact that a bunch of bigger fighters want a Mayweather payday, regardless of how ridiculous it is.

Ward went on record and said he'd fight Mayweather too. Being that Ward is clearly a better fighter than Sergio Martinez, why aren't you pushing for that fight instead since this is the route you're criticizing?

Finally, umm, you don't know who I am. But thanks.