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  • JJRod
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    #121
    Originally posted by racostaa
    Also Lara has a boring style?. Those comments are the one who shows the biases in the comments. Lara is not boring at all and exchange punches because doesn't have the perfect Rigo's defense. Basically what you guys want is that Cubans doesn't embarrass your favorite fighters. Probably you like Canelo also
    I would disagree. Lara is boring. Look at his last fight. If it wasn't for Austin Trout being the aggressor in that fight there pretty much wouldn't be a fight.

    And your assertion that people don't support him because he is Cuban is simply untrue. They don't support Lara, Rigondeaux, Abril and others because their style is not fan friendly.

    Look at Mexican IBF champion Miguel Vasquez. Dude is the Champ, ranked number 1 or 2 on most peoples lightweight rankings, and yet no one, not even Mexican fans care about this guy. There was no demand for him to fight Broner, when Broner was at 135. Why? Cause the guy is boring as hell.

    Marquez one of the top 10 greatest Mexican fighters of all time lived in the shadow of Morales and Barrera for years. Very few people knew who he was. He had to change his defensive counterpunching style in order to get some love from the Mexican fans.

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    • racostaa
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      #122
      Originally posted by Jalisciense909
      What I find funny is how the Cubans on here think there's some big conspiracy against Cuban fighters, hahaha.

      Bob Arum must have paid people all over the world to not watch Rigo vs. Agbeko, which is why it drew the lowest Boxing After Dark rating of all-time with 550,000 viewers.

      Why did Lara vs. Trout draw the lowest rating on Showtimes's 12/7 card? Is that part of the conspiracy too?

      I bet Rigo and Lara both drew 2 million + viewers and HBO and Showtime gave us fake numbers, hahaha.

      You Cuban fans just need to accept the fact that Rigo, Lara and any other Cuban with a boring style just don't sell, period.

      If the promoters could make money by marketing them in Miami or wherever else there's big Cuban populations they would, but they can't. But no, you think the promoters hate them so much they wouldn't make money off of them if they had the opportunity.

      The Cuban fans say that Agbeko and other opponents of Rigo/Lara should take some blame too. NO THEY SHOULD NOT. Agbeko and the other opponents are not the ones crying that they deserve more money and more exposure and this and that. Agbeko and the other opponents don't have the ego of Floyd Mayweather Jr. but only draw 3 fans.

      Rigo and Lara want to use their boring a$$ styles, be paid top dollar, and they want to fight on HBO and Showtime regularly. Demanding a$$ little divas.

      They need to either take more chances and go for the K.O. or sit down, STFU, and get paid $50,000 to fight on the opening bout of triple and quadruple headers.

      And LOL at them saying Mikey Garcia vs. Juan Carlos Burgos was boring. Wow, one boring fight.

      It's not okay for Nonito Donaire to run one round, but it's okay for Alfredo Angulo to chase Lara's track star a$$ for an entire fight. Dudes are f**kin' hypocrites.

      I liked Rigo, but the way he thinks and his fans are making me not like him anymore.
      For sure there is a campaign by promoters against Cubans for not destroy cash cows like Donaire, Canelo etc, who has more fan base and produce more profits. The Cuban problem is the fan base, because in cuba there is no HBO and the exile is not able by themselves to produce the profits like Mexicans, americans etc. So the promoters look for protection of the guys with enough fan base from the Cubans. They want the Cubans to be meat for climbing the others "champions" like many other foreign boxers are, but Cubans are not. They want to be champions and the boxing school is one of the best in the world since ever. They are claiming back their place in the boxing map once they had, but today without profitable fan base and this is the problem.
      Also Rigo, Lara, Gamboa are not humble and close their mouth to Arum and the promoters. They say the truth and Arun is accustom to everybody bow in front of him. Your boxers usually do this, but Rigo confront him with the truth and Arum don't like this. You must say the truth to everybody that is against you, like Arum is against Rigo. My best wishes to Rigo and I take off my hat to him

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      • racostaa
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        #123
        Originally posted by jrrod02
        I would disagree. Lara is boring. Look at his last fight. If it wasn't for Austin Trout being the aggressor in that fight there pretty much wouldn't be a fight.

        And your assertion that people don't support him because he is Cuban is simply untrue. They don't support Lara, Rigondeaux, Abril and others because their style is not fan friendly.

        Look at Mexican IBF champion Miguel Vasquez. Dude is the Champ, ranked number 1 or 2 on most peoples lightweight rankings, and yet no one, not even Mexican fans care about this guy. There was no demand for him to fight Broner, when Broner was at 135. Why? Cause the guy is boring as hell.

        Marquez one of the top 10 greatest Mexican fighters of all time lived in the shadow of Morales and Barrera for years. Very few people knew who he was. He had to change his defensive counterpunching style in order to get some love from the Mexican fans.
        For sure we disagree about what is boring. This theory came mainly after Arum comment and he is responsible for this comments. At least it seems that you and me can agree in something, beside his style, Rigo is the one of the best pound for pound boxers and today is unbeatable by any fan friendly boxers you may like. If you agree with that I'm satisfied

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        • DannYankee
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          #124
          I wonder how other fighters would feel about having a promoter who can turn on them and trash talk them just because they beat someone he didn't think you would and ruin his cash hopes. He is a promoter he gets paid to promote yet he hypes useless puppets and throws real talent under the bus over the dollar signs. Obvious Rigo was never gonna be a ppv star he dont even speak english and isn't mexican whatever he achieves is on merit not because he is a put together fighter to appeal to a stablished boxing demographic, and he is going to have to claw and earn it himself his whole career no matter who get's butthurt he will continue to do so.

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          • Ringlife
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            #125
            TR can put him on PPV undercards or have him move up to 126 which he plans on doing. Maybe facing bigger guys at 126 will make his fights more interesting to Arum.

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            • iniduoh
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              #126
              Rigo needs to wise up and get far away from that con artist Arum and HBO and go sign with GB and showtime. I'd like to know who's managing his career, he needs to fire them. Rigo is a world champion and master boxer, the best in and around his division and shouldn't take this kind of sh't from Arum or HBO. Just pack it in and move on. That's how you handle this situation.
              Last edited by iniduoh; 01-28-2014, 06:54 PM.

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              • JJRod
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                #127
                Originally posted by racostaa
                For sure we disagree about what is boring. This theory came mainly after Arum comment and he is responsible for this comments. At least it seems that you and me can agree in something, beside his style, Rigo is the one of the best pound for pound boxers and today is unbeatable by any fan friendly boxers you may like. If you agree with that I'm satisfied
                I completely agree on that. Rigo is top 3 p4p fighter right now. Which is why I feel it frustrates many fans. He has guys in front of him i.e. Agbeko who are no where near his class, and he doesn't put them away. I've said this before but to me, watching Rigo fight is almost like watching Ulsain Bolt jog a race. He may still win the race, but it's so unsatisfying.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by iniduoh
                  Rigo needs to wise up and get far away from that con artist Arum and HBO and go sign with GB and showtime. I'd like to know who's managing his career, he needs to fire them. Rigo is a world champion and master boxer, the best in and around his division and shouldn't take this kind of sh't from Arum or HBO. Just pack it in and move on. That's how you handle this situation.
                  Arum got him a fight with a superstar in Donaire after like 12 fights.
                  It's not just Arum..it's Hbo,Arum, and the fans that all turned off the TV when he came on that are saying he's not exciting.

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                  • racostaa
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by jrrod02
                    I completely agree on that. Rigo is top 3 p4p fighter right now. Which is why I feel it frustrates many fans. He has guys in front of him i.e. Agbeko who are no where near his class, and he doesn't put them away. I've said this before but to me, watching Rigo fight is almost like watching Ulsain Bolt jog a race. He may still win the race, but it's so unsatisfying.
                    I agree with you that Rigo and other cubans has no killing instinct, but the problem is mainly with the Cuban school. I'm been seeing the World Boxing championship and Cubans are mainly counterpunchers with good defense. Honestly I don't think Rigo will change and Arum should know it. His main options are with guys who force him to fight, but now as soon as they feel his punch they don't want to fight also. I agree that he is not a profitable boxer because we Cubans are not a big fan base and he is not appealing to others fans. He has to be happy with smaller purses or probably another promoter can arrange better fights that makes him look better, but I have the feeling that this is his style unless the opponent make him take more effort. IF the Cubans boxers came to professional to old like Rigo they will always be like him, and also the good ones will be hated by the fans of the cash cows they may win and without their own fan base to support they. But this true can be said by any person except the actual promoter. For me this against the ethic

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                    • PunchyPotorff
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                      #130
                      I haven't liked Bob since he went off on Rigo right after the Donut-Air fight. Keeps harping Rigo isn't a draw. Well, hey idiot, LEARN to MAKE him a draw! Do your job man, or let a REAL promoter have him. Best boxer alive can't get a fight? WTF is that?

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