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  • El Angel
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    #81
    Originally posted by RubenSonny
    A guy who Paul rematched immediately and KO'd within a round? You really think Cotto would give him the same treatment he gave Quintana? You are delusional. Let's not forget that Williams beat a prime margs while Cotto took a knee and cried.
    Took him two tries, only took Cotto and other decent fighters one. I'm not sure he stops him as quickly, but he stops him and beats him.

    Where Cotto was cheated? Yeah PW should have had to fight a plastered up Margs and see how he does to compare the two.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #82
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      I didnt say he would stop him,,, just overwhelm him and take a decision, much like trout did,,,


      remember williams beat margs, while cotto took a knee and quit,,

      So yes i think williams at welter as a great chance to overwhelm the smaller cotto.
      He's output and size would definitely be a problem for Cotto.

      Don't see it ending well for him.

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      • RubenSonny
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        #83
        Originally posted by El Angel
        Took him two tries, only took Cotto and other decent fighters one. I'm not sure he stops him as quickly, but he stops him and beats him.

        Where Cotto was cheated? Yeah PW should have had to fight a plastered up Margs and see how he does to compare the two.
        Do you have any proof that he cheated in the Cotto fight and not the Williams fight?

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        • sugarsmosley
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          #84
          Originally posted by El Angel
          Took him two tries, only took Cotto and other decent fighters one. I'm not sure he stops him as quickly, but he stops him and beats him.

          Where Cotto was cheated? Yeah PW should have had to fight a plastered up Margs and see how he does to compare the two.
          to be fair, PW probably did fight a plastered up marg

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          • El Angel
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            #85
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
            I didnt say he would stop him,,, just overwhelm him and take a decision, much like trout did,,,


            remember williams beat margs, while cotto took a knee and quit,,

            So yes i think williams at welter as a great chance to overwhelm the smaller cotto.
            Cotto dominated and stopped Quintana in his first WW fight. Williams lost a clear decision and then a TKO 1 in the rematch.

            His size would give Cotto problems and his high output, but he doesn't have the power to keep Cotto honest and thinking before he comes in. Williams preferred a dog fight on the inside and Cotto would happily oblige him while tearing into him with the harder shots.

            Marg's slow start really hurt him against PW, once he started going that became a live fight very quickly.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #86
              Originally posted by El Angel
              Took him two tries, only took Cotto and other decent fighters one. I'm not sure he stops him as quickly, but he stops him and beats him.

              Where Cotto was cheated? Yeah PW should have had to fight a plastered up Margs and see how he does to compare the two.
              How do you know he didn't have plaster for the Williams fight?

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              • Sugar Adam Ali
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                #87
                Originally posted by El Angel
                Took him two tries, only took Cotto and other decent fighters one. I'm not sure he stops him as quickly, but he stops him and beats him.

                Where Cotto was cheated? Yeah PW should have had to fight a plastered up Margs and see how he does to compare the two.
                How do you know margs was plastered vs cotto, and how do you know he wasnt vs paul..

                reasonable to think he was plastered in both,, but you cant say he was vs cotto with no proof but then insist that margs was clean vs paul, just to help your arguement,,,


                All we know for certain is that paul beat margs by overwhelming him with punches, and cotto quit and took a knee vs margs

                It is not crazy to think that williams with his size and activity could overwhelm cotto and maybe not stop him, but win a clear decision.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  How do you know he didn't have plaster for the Williams fight?
                  exactly,, beat me too it,,

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                  • El Angel
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by RubenSonny
                    Do you have any proof that he cheated in the Cotto fight and not the Williams fight?
                    Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                    to be fair, PW probably did fight a plastered up marg
                    I've always thought the slow start and close loss to PW to lose his title motivated Margs to change things up when he fought Golden Johnson on the Cotto-Mosley undercard at MSG. Again for the Cintron rematch, Cotto, and caught against Mosley. I can't prove that obviously so for sake of argument I'll agree they both fought a plastered up version of Margarito.

                    Just because PW fought and got a close UD over Margs doesn't necessarily mean he beats Cotto. Cotto has the boxing acumen and skill to outbox Williams, it has been done by lesser boxers. Williams output and size do pose problems for MC, but his jab, body work, and William's eagerness to fight it out on the inside and forsake all his physical advantages plays very much into Cotto's hands. I still say prime for prime Cotto stops him in 9 rounds.

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                    • El Angel
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                      How do you know margs was plastered vs cotto, and how do you know he wasnt vs paul..

                      reasonable to think he was plastered in both,, but you cant say he was vs cotto with no proof but then insist that margs was clean vs paul, just to help your arguement,,,


                      All we know for certain is that paul beat margs by overwhelming him with punches, and cotto quit and took a knee vs margs

                      It is not crazy to think that williams with his size and activity could overwhelm cotto and maybe not stop him, but win a clear decision.
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      How do you know he didn't have plaster for the Williams fight?
                      Reason given in my above post.

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