Are The Klitschkos Some of The Worst Heavyweight Champions Of All Time?

[daggum]

I think vitali has a better resume although its not exactly the 70s era. I think legit KO losses to sanders, Brewster and that journeyman puts wlad lower than vitalis losses to ATG Lewis and Byrd by a freak accident.

better than who? wilder? maybe by a little bit. sanders, peter, adamek, and...........................are those guys even good? no.

[JAB5239]

Again... opposition strength is all in the eye of the beholder.. when you're great.. opposition is secondary. Vitali Klitschko already has shown what he's capable of doing vs the very best of heavyweights in Lennox Lewis.. if this was his ONLY fight.. he'd already be thought of as a special fighter as he did things in this fight to Lennox that No OTHER heavyweight ever did to him & Lennox has faced according to most boxing scribes some of the best comp in the business.

He might have a loss vs him but he certainly proved beyond a shadow of doubt that he was just as good as him or better... so even if he faced 46 other stiffs.. doesn't matter because we know what he did against the very best.. so saying his comp which btw has been utterly destroyed by him is weaker is an oxy-moron.. He's faced the worst & he's faced the best so you have proof of what he does against ANY type of comp but let's keep on thinking that we DON'T know what Vitali is capable of doing vs any type of fighter..


47 have tried & 47 have failed miserably to try & outbox him.. no one has come close to outlanding him... outthrowing him.. outjabbing him.. landing more power shots.. that's 47 different fighters & not ONE o them has ever come close to even competing with him on ANY compubox statistic that involves quantity of punches landed.... this statistic is unheard for ANY champion in the history of boxing in any weight class but let's KEEP on not giving him the benefit of the doubt.. never once losing 3 rds in a bout in the judges eyes is ABSOLUTLE ridiculous even if he was fighting 47 tomatoe cans which he hasn't..


It'd be hardpressed to duplicate.. all this while never tasting canvas.. Wilder has been knocked down.. he's most probably been outpunched & probably lost 2 rds in a bout despite only going the 4 rd minimum just to give you an idea of how difficult it is to do what Vitali unprecedently has done.

What did Vits do to Lewis that no other fighter did? Lewis got stretched by McCall and Rahman. At his oldest and fattest Lewis minced up a prome Vits and stopped him. So please stop with the cheerleading.

And opposition strength is not just opinion. Its fact when you can prove fighters fought more top 10 guys by a one and only ranking rather than cherry picking some weak and easily manipulated ABC ranking.

[JAB5239]

I think vitali has a better resume although its not exactly the 70s era. I think legit KO losses to sanders, Brewster and that journeyman puts wlad lower than vitalis losses to ATG Lewis and Byrd by a freak accident.

I think most would disagree with you but I'll leave it at that since we're getting along so good tonight!

[altparm]

I think most would disagree with you but I'll leave it at that since we're getting along so good tonight!

Well I just don't see Wlad doing better against Lewis and Vitali did handle Sanders and Peter far better. That said the longevity of Wlad is moving him up the list.

[KBRO]

Only in the forums is Wlad considered the better fighter despite displaying way more weaknesses ( an inferior jaw which has had him taste canvas 11 more times... the older brother also has the higher winning% ko% & scorecard ratio.. completely digressed vs the same opposition his older brother has destroyed...



BUT because the younger brother has the stronger resume.. (he's had 17 more fights) HE'S elevated above his older brother who his way superior to him....... that's how valid these boxing resume qualifiers that are used on here..



Vitali clearly & utterly has way less weaknesses in a boxing ring but apparently quantity trumps quality.... just showing everyone here how weak & highly ineffective the boxing criteria for greatness displayed on these forums really are... just look at The KLITSCHKO'S resume as opposed to the other for those flaws in resume enhancement.

[daggum]

Well I just don't see Wlad doing better against Lewis and Vitali did handle Sanders and Peter far better. That said the longevity of Wlad is moving him up the list.

well vitali was tko'd by byrd who wlad destroyed. they both have different strengths and weaknesses and thats why they are such frauds. wlad fought almost all the boxer types while vitali fought all the aggressive guys. 2 guys pretending to be 1 champ. how is that great?

[JAB5239]

Only in the forums is Wlad considered the better fighter despite displaying way more weaknesses ( an inferior jaw which has had him taste canvas 11 more times... the older brother also has the higher winning% ko% & scorecard ratio.. completely digressed vs the same opposition his older brother has destroyed...



BUT because the younger brother has the stronger resume.. (he's had 17 more fights) HE'S elevated above his older brother who his way superior to him....... that's how valid these boxing resume qualifiers that are used on here..



Vitali clearly & utterly has way less weaknesses in a boxing ring but apparently quantity trumps quality.... just showing everyone here how weak & highly ineffective the boxing criteria for greatness displayed on these forums really are... just look at The KLITSCHKO'S resume as opposed to the other for those flaws in resume enhancement.

Your posts are very long winded. Bottom line is styles make fights. Why did Vits struggle with Byrd and Wlad handled him easily? Styles.

There is only one heavyweight champion in the Klitschko family and it isn't Vits. Get over it my man.

This thread has become boring. Lets discuss body punching and excitement in the thread I created since you disagree about that too.

[altparm]

well vitali was tko'd by byrd who wlad destroyed. they both have different strengths and weaknesses and thats why they are such frauds. wlad fought almost all the boxer types while vitali fought all the aggressive guys. 2 guys pretending to be 1 champ. how is that great?

Wasn't vitali ahead something like 8 or 9 rounds when the shoulder injury happened. Hardly a stoppage that Byrd caused.

[daggum]

Wasn't vitali ahead something like 8 or 9 rounds when the shoulder injury happened. Hardly a stoppage that Byrd caused.

byrd was making vitali look silly and hit air so he did cause it by making him miss. vitali started getting touched up and quit. what a "great" lol

[RINGG]

Probably shouldn't have both of the brothers in this poll. Different accomplishments.