Mayweather hasn't faced a legit prime opponent in 7 years

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

The problem we have is your initial assumption that my question was rooted in being a floyd fan and responding to "bashing". Look, if you think like that fine but thats ******ed.

I think networks pay fighters for reasons differently then the past. I think boxing in the ppv era is different than in the past. Networks are investing in "stars". Look at GGG, does his resume warrant HBO calling him the bst MW in the world. Of course not.

Did ANdre Berto deserve the payments he got based on who he fought? of course not.

The narrative change thing again. I never mentioned anything about money relative to ATG status. I'll try one last time.

If floyd fights Sergio for the MW title it will enhance his legacy. We know though that he would be taking this fight primarily because there are not more lucrative options available. In this case, as was Hagler SRL, the pursuit of money enahnced the legacy.

Just because you make alot doesn't make you an ATG. But when ATG's like a SRL, Duran, floyd, move up for more lucrative opportunities. In the past those were the better fights.

Every post you make has Floyd defense in mind so its very difficult to think otherwise. We'll have to agree to disagree

[The Big Dunn]

Sadly, a lot of people thought it was, just as they did with Oscar and Floyd. The problem with this era is that apart from Floyd, there isn't anyone else that gets close to heights of the 70's and 80's big fight era.

Exactly. You could see Hearns, DUran, Hagler and SRL on free TV on a sat/sun afternoon. Boxing was on all 3 networks so in order to get ratings you had to have great figts.

Now boxing is on pay TV. In order to get ratings, you need subscribers or puchasers. People have to be motivated to buy the fight. You need the right salesman more than you need great fights.

Right now, If manny and rios was on ppv and showtime had garcia v matts and santa cruz v mares on a freeview, manny would still have more viewers because he has cultivated a loyal following.

[malcolm]

Another dumb thread by a Mayweather hater…

Hate on brother, hate on.

Team UNDEFEATED!

[BadStoppage]

Every post you make has Floyd defense in mind so its very difficult to think otherwise. We'll have to agree to disagree

This is the thing about Manny fans they think anyone in touch with reality is as crazy as them, I'm not claiming a hype job is an ATG. If the only thing you can say is Floyd didn't move up you are wrong, going up 24 pounds from you starting weight is actually pretty good, if Mikey Garcia were to do that he would be fighting at 150 when he was 36. Floyd an ATG deal with it.

[The Big Dunn]

Every post you make has Floyd defense in mind so its very difficult to think otherwise. We'll have to agree to disagree

SO instead of admitting a mistake you tell me what I'm thinking when I post. Thats the stuff the scummiest of NSB posters like Cgarcia, evol and junior gong does. You've joined an elite group dude.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

SO instead of admitting a mistake you tell me what I'm thinking when I post. Thats the stuff the scummiest of NSB posters like Cgarcia, evol and junior gong does. You've joined an elite group dude.

You have to call things how you see it I suppose.

But you initiated the exchange by replying to my post, remember?

"were they seeking challenges or bigger paydays?"

That is deflecting the point, my friend.

Man up and at least admit this is in defense of Floyd and stop pretending its not.

My initial post, and point remains the same.

[BennyST]

Exactly. You could see Hearns, DUran, Hagler and SRL on free TV on a sat/sun afternoon. Boxing was on all 3 networks so in order to get ratings you had to have great figts.

Now boxing is on pay TV. In order to get ratings, you need subscribers or puchasers. People have to be motivated to buy the fight. You need the right salesman more than you need great fights.

Right now, If manny and rios was on ppv and showtime had garcia v matts and santa cruz v mares on a freeview, manny would still have more viewers because he has cultivated a loyal following.

Yeah, that other defensive **** was arguing a different point entirely. He was talking about what fights do for a fighters résumé, and what eventually makes an ATG and why theyre remembered, not what motivates fighters to actually fight and the reason they/promoters choose fights ie money.

Different eras. Too many slimy ****s in it for themselves now just trying to pull every buck they can through PPV. Any PPVs on should be a big and stacked as the last one. Be brilliant if boxing were on free tv again.

[The Big Dunn]

You have to call things how you see it I suppose.

But you initiated the exchange by replying to my post, remember?

"were they seeking challenges or bigger paydays?"

That is deflecting the point, my friend.

Man up and at least admit this is in defense of Floyd and stop pretending its not.

My initial post, and point remains the same.

no, it was a question in response to what you posted. It had nothing to do with floyd. it had to do with your assertion that
"Many other ATGs have moved up to seek new challenges and I dont see why Floyd shouldn't. "

you have no idea why a great fighter moved up in weight to fight. you've decided it was for challenge. I think its for the bigger purse based on the fact fighters fight for money.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

no, it was a question in response to what you posted. It had nothing to do with floyd. it had to do with your assertion that
"Many other ATGs have moved up to seek new challenges and I dont see why Floyd shouldn't. "

you have no idea why a great fighter moved up in weight to fight. you've decided it was for challenge. I think its for the bigger purse based on the fact fighters fight for money.

Sure thing, buddy...you weren't even thinking of Floyd. What a crock. You could at least admit and and we'd probably have a healthier discussion but oh well.

and no i didnt decide it was exclusively for a challenge--those are your words distracting the point. im talking about the result. the result is those guys fought very tough opponents (for whatever reason). Floyd hasnt. We should want him to. He is that good.

[BadStoppage]

SO instead of admitting a mistake you tell me what I'm thinking when I post. Thats the stuff the scummiest of NSB posters like Cgarcia, evol and junior gong does. You've joined an elite group dude.

He's not even a troll he's a crazy, he claims Floyd never moved up, I point out he has a this guy freaks out.