Vitali's mythical poor resume pt 2

[Boxing Goat]

I'd rather have been heavyweight champion of the world an achievement only matched by greats like Muhammed Ali, Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Mike Tyson and the rest.

Not achievements on par with Herbie Hide (regular world belt holder and European a Champ).

Vitali won the championship vs. Corrie Sanders and didn't get knocked out and lose it. It was a good fight, you should watch it sometime.

[Grimmer]

Vitali won 4 rounds against Lewis in 6 rounds while Rahman won 2 in 7 and was knocked out cold. I say Vitali did better, aside from the lucky KO punch.

You can win a fight and it is very favourable to do so by KO.

Do you think Douglas over Tyson would have been as dramatic or exciting as a decision win? What about rumble in the jungle?

It's boxing, not fencing.

[Boxing Goat]

LOL, winning a few rounds but losing after you get your face ripped to shreds is better than knocking out the heavyweight champion.

I prefer having been winning against the ATG champ legitimately and then winning 15 heavyweight title fights in two reigns very much over a lucky punch win over Lewis and one title win over Monte Barrett any day.

Sign me the f*** up buddy.

[Grimmer]

Vitali won the championship vs. Corrie Sanders and didn't get knocked out and lose it. It was a good fight, you should watch it sometime.

Sanders hadn't fought in over a year and wasn't ranked when Vitali fought him. So no, he didn't claim the true championship.

And Rahman beat a younger Sanders and claimed the true heavyweight lineage.

[bojangles1987]

This thread continues to prove that the worst Klitschko fans are the most delusional fans on this site. They don't have the numbers P@ctards and Fl0mos have, but they make up for it tenfold.

Losing to the heayvweight champion is doing better than knocking him out. Goddamn.

[bojangles1987]

I prefer having been winning against the ATG champ legitimately and then winning 15 heavyweight title fights in two reigns very much over a lucky punch win over Lewis and one title win over Monte Barrett any day.

Sign me the f*** up buddy.

Vitali didn't win anything against Lewis. He got half his eye ripped open and stopped.

I guess Pac should get credit for beating Marquez in the 4th fight, too. He was winning before getting knocked the **** out, and that's all that matters.

[crold1]

This thread continues to prove that the worst Klitschko fans are the most delusional fans on this site. They don't have the numbers P@ctards and Fl0mos have, but they make up for it tenfold.

Losing to the heayvweight champion is doing better than knocking him out. Goddamn.

Rahman-Lewis I was a pretty close fight through four. About even. Rahman came to rumble. The rematch...well, he rocked Lewis with a jab in the 1st. That was about it.

[Boxing Goat]

You can win a fight and it is very favourable to do so by KO.

Do you think Douglas over Tyson would have been as dramatic or exciting as a decision win? What about rumble in the jungle?

It's boxing, not fencing.

Just saying, he won by a lucky punch and it was proven to be a fluke. Lewis pretty much dominated him the rest of the time.

Lewis only beat Vitali on cuts while getting handled.

[crold1]

Just saying, he won by a lucky punch and it was proven to be a fluke. Lewis pretty much dominated him the rest of the time.

Lewis only beat Vitali on cuts while getting handled.

It wasn't a fluke. He beat what was in front of him. Lewis showed up in less than his best condition (career high 253 1/2), Rahman fought him on even terms through four, hurt him with a big right hand late in the fifth, finished him with a bigger one.

If Rahman was a fluke, using your logic, then winning a few early rounds against a Lewis older, in worse shape (256 1/2), off a one-year layoff, before getting cut and seeing the tide shift to Lewis, being hurt badly at the end of the sixth...wouldn't that performance also be a fluke? (I don't think it's fair to say in either case...just using your logic).

I thought you said you had too much a life to keep responding here?

I can respect that but it's more of a matter of who decides to give up first. Those guys seem to have some personal stake in this online banter and tend to stay on it longer. Me, I have a normal life and much better things to do and think about.

Life took a dive early today I guess.

[crold1]

Sanders hadn't fought in over a year and wasn't ranked when Vitali fought him. So no, he didn't claim the true championship.

And Rahman beat a younger Sanders and claimed the true heavyweight lineage.

Sanders was still rated third. Ring didn't remove him because he had a fight scheduled. He was rated ahead of Vitali before Vitali beat a 260 lb. unrated Kirk Johnson. That awesome win got Vitali elevated to #1 somehow.

No manipulation there at all. You are right he didn't claim the ture championship. Ring's call remains disputed (by those who care about lineage; everyone doesn't) to this day and multiple historical listings do not consider Vitali a former genuine Heavyweight Champion. They shouldn't. Sanders was the first rated fighter he ever beat.

We've already been through all this man...go back a dozen pages or so.