Vitali's mythical poor resume pt 2

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  • BattlingNelson
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    #101
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    So how am I spreading lies? I've looked and haven't found anything. Have you found anything saying he did? Show me and I'll retract my mistake. If not all we have to go on is the FACT he did not fight them or the 22 others named. Am I wrong?

    Seems you want to discredit me since you don't like my stance on Vits. Tsk, tsk, tsk.....can't change the facts old friend.
    Do you have evidence to back up your claim? Yes or no. It's as simple as that.

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      #102
      My dog has never taken a dump! Yes it's true. I've never seen it's turd.

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      • JAB5239
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        #103
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        I thought he, like anybody else, pursued a fight with Tyson then. I suppose you have a source saying that he didn't?


        Edit: As I recall, Tyson chose a Nielsen fight over Vitali back in 2001, but I'm going on memory.
        Do you have evidence for your claims....or shall I start calling you a liar and demanding you retract this? Grow up Bat.

        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Do you have evidence to back up your claim? Yes or no. It's as simple as that.
        Yes, they never fought. What else do you need? If it doesn't change his resume why get so indignant?

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          #104
          Originally posted by JAB5239
          Do you have evidence for your claims....or shall I start calling you a liar and demanding you retract this? Grow up Bat.
          I clearly said that I was going on memory. Your claim was presented as FACT!

          Yes, they never fought. What else do you need? If it doesn't change his resume why get so indignant?
          That's ******ed! You are saying that if Vitali had asked for a fight with Tyson, he would have had it!

          I bet you expect Anthony Mundine to get the next Mayweather fight then.


          Give it up. Retract your claim and all is good.

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          • JAB5239
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            #105
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            Originally posted by BattlingNelson
            I clearly said that I was going on memory. Your claim was presented as FACT!
            More times than not when I present something as fact I claim it as such. You know this too.

            That's ******ed! You are saying that if Vitali had asked for a fight with Tyson, he would have had it!
            That's not what I said at all. Why are you trying to put words in my mouth?

            I bet you expect Anthony Mundine to get the next Mayweather fight then.
            You ok bro, you're starting to go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

            Give it up. Retract your claim and all is good.
            I've looked into it and found nothing. You've provided nothing. But hey just to make you feel better.....I retract whatever statement hurt Bats feelings.

            We cool now?

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            • Szef
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              #106
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              if ali fought vitaliu's resume no one would think he was an atg. if vitali fought ali's resume,he'd have been kTFO enough that this ridiculous ****ing thread wouldn't have been created.
              Oh yeah? By who? Ken Norton? Sonny Banks? Henry Cooper?

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              • slimshandy69
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                #107
                good thread.

                Wald and Vitali are the best two heavyweights ever. Ive never seen two Elite Athletes dominate a sport like these two have.

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                • JAB5239
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Szef99
                  Oh yeah? By who? Ken Norton? Sonny Banks? Henry Cooper?
                  Whether he would have been ko'd in other era's is open to debate. That his resume is very poor isn't. It's why the vast majority do not consider him an ATG.

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                  • Szef
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    Whether he would have been ko'd in other era's is open to debate. That his resume is very poor isn't. It's why the vast majority do not consider him an ATG.
                    It depends on how you define an ATG...For me it's a mix of resume, how he would do h2h against other ATGs and level of dominance. He's resume is not the best, I can agree with that but again he was injured for 4 years ..

                    H2H he would do great against other ATGs, and would beat most of them IMO. The only guys I would favour against Vitali is Ali and Lewis.

                    His level of dominance is unquestionable.

                    In my book he's almost an ATG he only needs one "big" win. That's why I still want him to fight and KO that clown Haye.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Szef99
                      It depends on how you define an ATG...For me it's a mix of resume, how he would do h2h against other ATGs and level of dominance. He's resume is not the best, I can agree with that but again he was injured for 4 years ..

                      H2H he would do great against other ATGs, and would beat most of them IMO. The only guys I would favour against Vitali is Ali and Lewis.

                      His level of dominance is unquestionable.

                      In my book he's almost an ATG he only needs one "big" win. That's why I still want him to fight and KO that clown Haye.
                      While I favor Vits highly h2h there is no accurate way to be sure of anything. And leaving out the 4 years he retired he still missed 24 top 10 fighters. His dominance has come at the expense of mostly second rate opposition. And While I think he can compete in any era and with most fighters in history I don't think its justifiable putting him ahead of fighters who fought and beat the higher standards of their times.

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