De La Hoya can never be called an ATG

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  • Luilun
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    #61
    Originally posted by InSaiyan
    do u hold the mosley loss against him
    Actually Delahoya Beat Mosley on roids and Trinidad on bricks he almost beat Mayweather as a shot fighter so he can't be that bad

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    • InSaiyan
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      #62
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
      Gotta love when a fan who thinks a fighter didn't deserve a win they got acts like it was a loss, as if their opinion changes the actual decision or something.



      What a garbage list. Marciano so low is when I stopped reading and placed my palm on my face.
      Compared to the guys ranked above him? You must be joking.

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      • -Huey-
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        #63
        He is an ATG, people just hate on the dude cause they started watching after 2007. They don't know the guys he fought from 95-2004, he was pretty much done after that. He beat the guys that mattered when he was in his prime.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Luilun
          Actually Delahoya Beat Mosley on roids and Trinidad on bricks he almost beat Mayweather as a shot fighter so he can't be that bad
          Sadly the history book disagrees with you and the record shows dlh went 0-4 against those fighters.

          In fact ill name every major great name dlh fought and the result.

          JCC win x2
          Floyd loss
          Manny loss
          Hop loss
          Whitaker win
          Shane loss x2
          Tito loss

          That's a 3-6 record agains great fighters with his only wins coming when he was prime against a 33 year old Whitaker and 2 wins over the 32 year old JCC.

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          • LoadedWraps
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            #65
            Originally posted by InSaiyan
            Compared to the guys ranked above him? You must be joking.
            I most certainly am not joking.
            Originally posted by -Huey-
            He is an ATG, people just hate on the dude cause they started watching after 2007. They don't know the guys he fought from 95-2004, he was pretty much done after that. He beat the guys that mattered when he was in his prime.
            This. New fans are idiots, only an idiot ignores the sport they watch before they started watching. One of the quickest methods of guaging the intelligence of a person.

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              #66
              Originally posted by -Huey-
              He is an ATG, people just hate on the dude cause they started watching after 2007. They don't know the guys he fought from 95-2004, he was pretty much done after that. He beat the guys that mattered when he was in his prime.
              Except tito in 1999, Shane in 2000 and 2003 and hop in 2004.

              Yeah bunch of no name bums that lot.

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              • InSaiyan
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                #67
                Originally posted by lparm
                Sadly the history book disagrees with you and the record shows dlh went 0-4 against those fighters.

                In fact ill name every major great name dlh fought and the result.

                JCC win x2
                Floyd loss
                Manny loss
                Hop loss
                Whitaker win
                Shane loss x2
                Tito loss

                That's a 3-6 record agains great fighters with his only wins coming when he was prime against a 33 year old Whitaker and 2 wins over the 32 year old JCC.
                That's pretty good considering he was past prime by 2003 and still took all those hard fights.

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                • Sugar Adam Ali
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by InSaiyan
                  how do you classify the losses to mosley being that shane was juicing?
                  Tough to say,,, i Dont know if mosely was juicing in the first one,,, and i thought that was a close mosely win,,, the 2nd he was juicing but even then i thought he lost that fight,,,, Oscar clearly won 7 rounds of that fight using his jab,,,,

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    Tough to say,,, i Dont know if mosely was juicing in the first one,,, and i thought that was a close mosely win,,, the 2nd he was juicing but even then i thought he lost that fight,,,, Oscar clearly won 7 rounds of that fight using his jab,,,,
                    It's no coincidence when Mosley suddenly jumped to welterweight that was when Conte was creating his BALCO lab. Hell I think he was actually better at welterweight than he was at lightweight.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by InSaiyan
                      That's pretty good considering he was past prime by 2003 and still took all those hard fights.
                      When was JCC and Whitaker past prime?

                      Let me guess a year after dlh beat them right.

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