De La Hoya can never be called an ATG

[LoadedWraps]

I get the sense that Mak is one of the only people in this thread that actually viewed Oscar's career as it occured.

My opinion is Oscar isn't an ATG.

He's boarerline IMO.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I watched his whole career "as it occured" and consider him an ATG.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I get the sense that Mak is one of the only people in this thread that actually viewed Oscar's career as it occured.

My opinion is Oscar isn't an ATG.

He's boarerline IMO.

from the moment they showcased him in the Olympics to the moment he got retired


very good fighter, extremely well hyped...even if i put my DLH hate aside and look back objectively, i can't honestly say that he was an ATG

[lparm]

from the moment they showcased him in the Olympics to the moment he got retired


very good fighter, extremely well hyped...even if i put my DLH hate aside and look back objectively, i can't honestly say that he was an ATG

I've always said if dlh gets a pass for his losses to the much smaller Floyd and Manny who were both moving up to fight him because his fans say he was old and past prime then those same fans have to dismiss dlhs wins over older, past prime JCC and Whitaker.

[beez721]

He could have easily gotten the "W" against Mosley and Tito. But still the versions of the great fighters he's fought were in fact better than the version the so called greater Floyd and Manny ever fought.

yea,,I thought he should have got the nod over tito altho he ran for his life in that last round. I thought quartey beat him. anyway,,he was a very very good fighter but not an atg but def a hall of famer. I give him credit for not ducking anyone and facing some of the most dangerous opponents in his weight divisions

[-Huey-]

We get it...De La Hoya is not your favorite guy!

[bojangles1987]

HOFer, not ATG.

[lparm]

We get it...De La Hoya is not your favorite guy!

It's not a matter of favorites its a matter of facts.

He lost to every prime ATG he fought.

[beez721]

I've always said if dlh gets a pass for his losses to the much smaller Floyd and Manny who were both moving up to fight him because his fans say he was old and past prime then those same fans have to dismiss dlhs wins over older, past prime JCC and Whitaker.

I do give him a pass for his losses to Floyd and manny as he was obviously past it but I also don't give him big credit for his victories over jcc and whitaker as they were also past it

[lparm]

I do give him a pass for his losses to Floyd and manny as he was obviously past it but I also don't give him big credit for his victories over jcc and whitaker as they were also past it

So he gets no credit for his wins over JCC and Whitaker but takes no hits for losses to manny and Floyd.

That still means he lost to Shane twice, Tito and hop.

So he's still 0-4 against ATGs.

Like many people have said, HOF? Yes. ATG? Hell no.

[beez721]

So he gets no credit for his wins over JCC and Whitaker but takes no hits for losses to manny and Floyd.

That still means he lost to Shane twice, Tito and hop.

So he's still 0-4 against ATGs.

Like many people have said, HOF? Yes. ATG? Hell no.

which is why I said I don't consider him an atg but I totally respect him for taking on all the most dangerous opponents in his weight classes unlike mayweather