De La Hoya can never be called an ATG

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  • lparm
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    #91
    Originally posted by beez721
    which is why I said I don't consider him an atg but I totally respect him for taking on all the most dangerous opponents in his weight classes unlike mayweather
    Oh yes his résumé of opponents is great but the trouble is he lost to all the prime ATGs so putting them in the same category is disrespecting the great fighters.

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    • lx!!
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      #92
      This site keeps getting funnier & dumber by the day... Lol! How in the name of everything that's holly is Oscar (the real PPV King, if you've followed the sport longer than a year & know more than PAC & gayweather you'd know) is he not a ATG or hall HOF material??? No need to explain plain & simple he is! He took on anybody anytime never made a road block to avoid anybody, never took a "retirement" when his division was hot instead he took on everybody!

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      • JoeKidd
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        #93
        ATG isn't about records. It's about a fighter destroying people. Nothing special about sneaking decisions. Nothing special about De Lahoya.

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        • R_Walken
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          #94
          I give Oscar credit for many things. His resume is top notch he always fought the best, he's one of the Best businessman in the sports history. but come on he is no where near ATG status when he was fighting he was the mainstream people's champion people that don't know or care about boxing liked Oscar.

          How can you be a ATG when your not even top 5 maybe top 10 in your era. I would consider a ATG as some who was the top 10 - 20 to ever pick up a pair of gloves. If he was any other fighter And the Internet was around he wouldn't get as much credit for beating a old Chavez or coked out Pernell past prime Camacho.

          Even with that His first half of his career I can't knock I don't like Oscar but its legit. But since the Tito fight his record is dog shiz. And yes he lost to Tito you don't get worked and run for the championship rounds and win fights Any legit opponent since hes lost. Mosely (2) , Sturm ( technically a win, how can you lose to Sturm and be a ATG? ) Hopkins , Mayweather ( gift split decision) and Manny and during that time he beat Vargas , Mayorga , Gatti & Forbes. Solid wins but not great wins. He was smart though it would be like he fought average fighters get the win and then ride the momentum into a super fight and lose and do the cycle over again. Smart businessman over rated fighter.

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          • JoeKidd
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            #95
            What's this ATG speculation based on? His popularity? True, he was a HUGE draw. They say 60% of his fans were women, right? And 20% were ****s or undecided? So how many true fans appreciated him? For his boxing?

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            • Shad0wB0xer
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              #96
              If Oscar isn't an ATG, I don't know who is. He didn't win against the very best but with the exception of Bhop and Pac, he fought other ATG on very even terms.

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                #97
                Is he top 50 all time?? http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/50_greatest.htm

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                • LoadedWraps
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by JoeKidd
                  What's this ATG speculation based on? His popularity? True, he was a HUGE draw. They say 60% of his fans were women, right? And 20% were ****s or undecided? So how many true fans appreciated him? For his boxing?
                  Me. One of the best jabs I have ever seen. A huge influence to my boxing interest/style.

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                  • jri9d0
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Luilun
                    Actually Delahoya Beat Mosley on roids and Trinidad on bricks he almost beat Mayweather as a shot fighter so he can't be that bad
                    And yet still walked away with an "L" on all three fights...

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                    • lparm
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by lx!!
                      This site keeps getting funnier & dumber by the day... Lol! How in the name of everything that's holly is Oscar (the real PPV King, if you've followed the sport longer than a year & know more than PAC & gayweather you'd know) is he not a ATG or hall HOF material??? No need to explain plain & simple he is! He took on anybody anytime never made a road block to avoid anybody, never took a "retirement" when his division was hot instead he took on everybody!
                      You're right, anyone that calls dlh an ATG is obviously joking.

                      It's pretty funny.

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