Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: Marquez Got a Lucky Break in Our Fight

[richardt]

WOW! No one can see that he is trying to use a degrading comment to get JMM to fight him???? Seriously? Too easy to see.

[The Big Dunn]

WOW! No one can see that he is trying to use a degrading comment to get JMM to fight him???? Seriously? Too easy to see.

this is perfectly reasonable but if a floyd fan said same you'd be killing them saying they are gullible and defend floyd at all costs.

[Boxing Goat]

m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=8464684&src=desktop

Read the article and read it good my friend.

I can't read minds so I just go by the facts in print. Both fighters said it was the last one beforehand. I could flip reverse your questio and ask if at any time in the previous three fights, or even the fourth, Pac knocked Marquez out, would anyone be asking for a rematch?

Well done, it's been a while but as you can see in the article it was written in Oct. 2012. Immediately after the fight, though, Pacquiao wanted a rematch with Bradley then realized it really wasn't necessary a month or two later.

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/stor...al-bout-062012

As you can tell that was reported in June 2012, a full 4 months prior to your report.

Then, in this link:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09...radley-rematch

Pacquiao had a change of heart when he realized it was pointless.

And, yes the public may have wanted another fight if Pacquiao had knocked out JMM in the 2nd or 3rd fight. Look what he did to Barrera in their 1st fight and a rematch stil happened.

Overall, were getting off topic. I want to reiterate my point: The punch was not lucky and I still feel like JMM should be giving Pacquiao a rematch to repay the three gift rematches he was given that really put him on the map.

Oh, and be sure to read those links 'good' now.

[Fetta]

WOW! No one can see that he is trying to use a degrading comment to get JMM to fight him???? Seriously? Too easy to see.

This is what i see too.

Taking the Apollo Creed route. It worked for him

[J The UnBiased]

I came back to this thread for this? Sorry I'm making people who obviously have a problem with Pacquiao or his fans mad, whom will not admit it, but I'm calling it straight.

Like I said earlier, I'm no Pacquiao cheerleader and happen to like Marquez just fine. I think he's the best Mexican ring tactician of all time. But he tried so hard to set he record straight with Pacquiao and ultimately got 3 extra chances to do it, but now that he got what he wanted, he no longer wants to face Pacquiao, even for the best money of his career. How can anyone else say this is not a duck? Boxing is sport but foremost it's a business. It made great business sense to rematch Manny, but he refused.

Furthermore, if star power had a thing to do with the results of those fights, Bradley would never have beaten Pacquiao when he lost probably 8 out of 12 rounds and landed 100 less punches while being rocked more than once.

More times than not, the come forward aggressive fighters pushing the action get the beter results on cards. That is a fact, not just some opinion. It's been proven 99% of the time. Those wins were the result of his aggressiveness. Not some robbery like you would love to convince yourself of. try another angle because that one just don't cut it.

For you to say that Juan is ducking a man that he's faced 4 times already, for you to say that Juan is ducking a man that he just put to sleep is enough for this conversation to end. good talk

[Boxing Goat]

For you to say that Juan is ducking a man that he's faced 4 times already, for you to say that Juan is ducking a man that he just put to sleep is enough for this conversation to end. good talk

Right, you've been bested, I know. It was a matter of time.

It's a duck, plain and simple. If you don't think so, then answer why he would NOT face a guy he just knocked out and say he's retiring but his wife will allow him to have another fight, just not against Pacman, even if it's for as much money as he's made in his career up to that point combined? If nothinhg else, open up your mind and think about it. If you simpy cannot do that, then okay. Just admit it.

[Suavecito80]

Right, you've been bested, I know. It was a matter of time.

It's a duck, plain and simple. If you don't think so, then answer why he would NOT face a guy he just knocked out and say he's retiring but his wife will allow him to have another fight, just not against Pacman, even if it's for as much money as he's made in his career up to that point combined? If nothinhg else, open up your mind and think about it. If you simpy cannot do that, then okay. Just admit it.

You smell like an alt to me for some reason. 24 post and you have been knighting like a professional for manny. No way in hell that is god damn duck. He put him to sleep and is now fighting Bradley. You act like he went and fought a david diaz type figther.

[Marvellous1]

Well done, it's been a while but as you can see in the article it was written in Oct. 2012. Immediately after the fight, though, Pacquiao wanted a rematch with Bradley then realized it really wasn't necessary a month or two later.

http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/stor...al-bout-062012

As you can tell that was reported in June 2012, a full 4 months prior to your report.

Then, in this link:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/09...radley-rematch

Pacquiao had a change of heart when he realized it was pointless.

And, yes the public may have wanted another fight if Pacquiao had knocked out JMM in the 2nd or 3rd fight. Look what he did to Barrera in their 1st fight and a rematch stil happened.

Overall, were getting off topic. I want to reiterate my point: The punch was not lucky and I still feel like JMM should be giving Pacquiao a rematch to repay the three gift rematches he was given that really put him on the map.

Oh, and be sure to read those links 'good' now.

Read them and they didn't do a single thing to refute the fact the reason a 4th fight between Marquez and Pacquiao happened is because Cotto didn't agree to a catchweight fight and a rematch against Bradley wasn't fancied. You kind of did your part to confirm it. It was not to do Marquez a favour (like none of the other fights were). Marquez was the best option and there no definitive winner previously.

Marquez doesn't OWE Pacquiao a rematch, he is entitled to do what suits him, especially at this stage of his career. I would wager that if Marquez was made the right offer he would fight Pacquiao again. But I'd have a problem being offered millions less than a guy I'd knocked out to fight him again.

[icha]

Marquez was landing lucky punches all night. He hit Pacquaio with that same lucky right hand about 60 times in the fight. But I am sure if he had fought Pacquaio toe to toe instead of running and counterpunching all night like Mayweather does, Pacquaio probably would have won the fight.

marquez fighting toe to toe gets robbed again...

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

Not only lucky but PEDS powered! Nobody believes Marquez was clean just look at Bradley who would rather forfeit than fight if there's no blood testing.