Miguel Cotto's opponents

[BoxingGenius27]

Hey boxing expert super dope genius.....what's untrue about Cotto's career was based on mid level fighters, beating a few good ones, losing to the top guys, than fighting more mid level fighters???

Right because the guys you named that he "should've" fought were all elite fighters at the time, right?

Again, Cotto fought everyone put in front of him and there really couldn't have been a different route for him pre 08, until Floyd retire, tried to rematch DLH, said Cotto lived to far and didn't have a fan base.

Before the plasterman, Cotto was like a modern day Golovkin, feared by many and ducked no one. I don't even like the dude, but what's true is true.

You're just retrospectively using boxrec/google and discrediting the man not realizing that there was no other way to do it.

I will say that he hasn't been the same since the first Margarito fight, which is obvious. But if we're talking pre-plasterman, he handled is business the only way he could and fought everyone put in front of him.

Now go to boxrec and tell my why he should've fought Gavin Rees in 06.

[AnimalisticMeth]

Let's take a look at Cotto's resume

Cesar Bazan - 39-5-1 - former WBC Lightweight Champion

Carlos Maussa - 17-0 - WBA Light Welterweight Champion after Cotto fight

Lovemore Ndou - 38-6-1 - IBF light Welterweight Champion after Cotto fight

Kelson Pinto - 21-0

Randal Bailey - 28-4 - WBA, WBO Former Light Welterweight Champion and IBF Welterweight champion after Cotto fight.

Demarcus Corley - 29-3-1 - former WBO Light Welterweight Champion

Ricardo Torres - 28-0 - WBO Light Welterweight champion after Cotto fight.

Paulie Malignaggi - 21-0 - IBF Light Welterweight Champion and WBA Welterweight Champion after Cotto fight

Carlos Quintana - 23-0 - WBO Welterweight Champion after Cotto fight

Zab Judah - 34-4 - Former IBF, WBO Light Welterweight Champion and WBA, WBC, IBF, Ring and undisputed Welterweight Champion

Shane Mosley - 44-4 - Former IBF Lightweight Champion, WBC, WBA, Lineal Welterweight Champion and WBA, WBC light Midleweight Champion

Joshua Clottey - 35-2 - IBF Welterweight Champion

Yuri Foreman - 28-0 - WBA Light Midleweight Champion

Ricardo Mayorga - 29-7-1 - Former WBA, WBC, Ring Welterweight champion and WBC Light Midleweight Champion

Antonio Margarito - 38-7 - Former IBF, WBO and WBA Welterweight Champion

That is 14 wins over World Champions!

Only 4 defeats

Antonio Margarito - 36-5 - IBF WW Champion at the time and Cotto avenged that loss later on.

Manny Pacquiao - 49-3-2 - Lineal light Welter Champion and #1 P4P fighter at the time.

Floyd Mayweather - 42-0 - Undefeated WBC WW Champion and #1 P4P fighter at the time.

Austin Trout - 25-0 - Undefeated WBA Light Midleweight Champion

Is not like Cotto has lost to bums and his record in World Title fights is impressive.

[4Corners]

Right because the guys you named that he "should've" fought were all elite fighters at the time, right?

Again, Cotto fought everyone put in front of him and there really couldn't have been a different route for him pre 08, until Floyd retire, tried to rematch DLH, said Cotto lived to far and didn't have a fan base.

Before the plasterman, Cotto was like a modern day Golovkin, feared by many and ducked no one. I don't even like the dude, but what's true is true.

You're just retrospectively using boxrec/google and discrediting the man not realizing that there was no other way to do it.

I will say that he hasn't been the same since the first Margarito fight, which is obvious. But if we're talking pre-plasterman, he handled is business the only way he could and fought everyone put in front of him.

Now go to boxrec and tell my why he should've fought Gavin Rees in 06.

You sound like an ignorant fool to keep throwing boxrec into it. I could probably go to boxrec and find more guys who i can't think of who were at 140 and 154 he could have but didn't fight.

I'm not saying he ducked anyone moron, you keep saying this, you obviously have trouble reading and/or comprehending the english language. But hey....

Cotto's career was based off beating mid level fighters who either didn't do much before or after, beating a few good ones (who many thought he may have lost to as well), losing to top guys, and beating more mid level fighters.

Why did Cotto only beat 1 title holder???

[4Corners]

A lot of former or future champs is what I see.....

More than important than who is when. You know a resume is weak, given the hype he gets, when you have to start naming Quintana or Paulie Malignaggi as his 4th best win.

[AnimalisticMeth]

You sound like an ignorant fool to keep throwing boxrec into it. I could probably go to boxrec and find more guys who i can't think of who were at 140 and 154 he could have but didn't fight.

I'm not saying he ducked anyone moron, you keep saying this, you obviously have trouble reading and/or comprehending the english language. But hey....

Cotto's career was based off beating mid level fighters who either didn't do much before or after, beating a few good ones (who many thought he may have lost to as well), losing to top guys, and beating more mid level fighters.

Why did Cotto only beat 1 title holder???

1 title holder? Clottey was IBF champ and was stripped right before the Cotto fight. He has defeated 14 World Champions tell me how many Castillo has defeated?

[4Corners]

The point is you wouldn't count Pinto, Quintana, Paulie, and all those guys as good wins for anyone else, especially someone like Mayweather or Pacquiao. But you do for Cotto.

[4Corners]

1 title holder? Clottey was IBF champ and was stripped right before the Cotto fight. He has defeated 14 World Champions tell me how many Castillo has defeated?

Well we could argue to who really won that fight too, but I'm not going to. He officially, because you Cotto fans love to say Cotto officially won this fight or that fight, won one title over an actual title holder.

I'm not saying the guy sucks, he's a good fighter, one of the better fighters in his era. But you'd think the guy had some impressive resume given the hype he gets.

What's funny is I like Cotto fans......when they're not talking about Cotto.

[AnimalisticMeth]

A lot of former or future champs is what I see.....

More than important than who is when. You know a resume is weak, given the hype he gets, when you have to start naming Quintana or Paulie Malignaggi as his 4th best win.

Paulie Malignaggi and Carlos Quintana were better fighters than guys like Robert Guerrero, Arturo Gatti, Genaro Hernandez, Emanuel Agustus and Carlos Baldomir

[JmH Reborn]

So then...

What does that say about Mayweather, who anyone can make an argument that one of the top 3 wins of his career is against a past-prime Cotto. You can slice and dice anybody's resume if you really want to. He fought Mosley five years too late, when he was a nobody who had a 16 mo, layoff and two training camps. It's a terrible win for Mayweather. No fan should claim that win. The only "great" win JMM has is against Pacquiao, and it took 4 tries. He has no other "great" wins. He has a bunch of C+, B and B+ wins. To go back onto Mayweather, his only "great" win was Chico and I guess you can say JLC, but that was unimpressive. I'll grant him that beating Canelo should be classified as a "great" win.

At the end, EVERY fighter has solid B-B+ guys on their resume. It's what elevates them to the A side. He beat every B guy there was except Trout, in a styles and size clash, and he's on the wrong side of his career. It's not like he lost a B guy like Trout in his prime, like say a JMM against Norwood or Chris John.

In his A fights, he gave the best there is all he can handle, and tried his best against the other. He lost to Margs in a certified war that we all should be happy we saw.

His resume is the sum of all parts. That's it. He fought everyone worth fighting. You win some, you lose some. That's that.

[JmH Reborn]

Paulie Malignaggi and Carlos Quintana were better fighters than guys like Robert Guerrero, Arturo Gatti, Genaro Hernandez, Emanuel Agustus and Carlos Baldomir

And boom...that's all that matters. Both guys, undefeated and prime. Got their ass kicked, then went on to win championships and beat top level guys.