When did the "10 count" become the 9 count?

[Russian Crushin]

If anyone wants a second viewing...

The commentators were confused as to why he stopped it, saying did hr think the count stopped at 9

[Russian Crushin]

Didn't you just say a TKO was when the ref stopped it before counting to 8? Or did you just have to wiki that?

No i said if its stopped at 8, its a TKO

For it to be a KO, the fighter has to not beat the count

[Tom Cruise]

Out of interest, what are the rules if the ref says '10' as a fighter is getting up? as properly in the process on his feet but still bent over just straightening out his back

I assume its a KO?

Genuine question not a loaded one...

[Jam Jars]

The commentators were confused as to why he stopped it, saying did hr think the count stopped at 9

Him staying down until 9 made the ref think he was unable to continue by the looks of it.

[LacedUp]

No i said if its stopped at 8, its a TKO

For it to be a KO, the fighter has to not beat the count

Not true. If the ref deems the fighter unable to fight on when hes on the ground and waves the fight off in the middle of the count it is still a KO. A fighter will have to get to is feet and if the ref waves it off then, then it's a TKO. Like Chisora - Haye.

Regardless, you didn't have your ***** together, you might want to think about that before dishing it out.

Look at Kessler vs Green. I don't believe Green got a full count, and that sure as hell was a KO.

[Ganondorf]

Omg, yes he does, that is the official rule. TO be counted out, the ref must count to 10 and then wave. I posted the damn rule for you. Here ill do it again

"When a boxer is knocked down, the referee shall audibly announce the count as he motions with his right arm downward indicating the end of each sound of the count. If the boxer taking the count is still down when the referee calls the count of ten (10), the referee shall wave both arms indicating that the boxer has been knocked out."

Lol! With some people, you must spell things out Barney-style, and even then it can be a lost cause.

[Jam Jars]

He could have said 10 while he was waving, when the ref gets to 10 it's over. The ref doesn't even need to count to 10 if he thinks Scott isn't able to continue. Waiting until 9 to rise could have made the ref think that.

Yes he does the rules clearly state that, jesus

The rules state he must count to 10 then wave, how many times do i have to say that to you till you understand. He did it at 9 instead of 10, thats 1 second early. The ref can stop the fight anytime if he thinks scott isnt able to continue. But thats a TKO. This is officially a KO meaning he was counted out and for a fighter to be counted out, the ref needs to count to 10, then wave. Get it yet?

No, a TKO is if the Ref believes the fighter is unfit to continue, which can be any time. Did Floyd KO Hatton? No it was a TKO. Same with Mosley Marg

Make up your mind.

[Rockin']

Maybe you should watch the fight and then comment

I just watched it. It was possibly a quick count at the end, that's why every fighter knows to just get up at 8. Why even risk it? Then you have threads such as these. Simply put your boy messed up. Whether the count is fast or slow thats the official count, your boy should have been up at 8. Even if the refs count was fast your boy should have been up at 8.................. Rockin'

[samouraļ]

I didn't see the fight in real time but just watched the "stoppage". Definite bull****. Bey definitely should have played it safe and gotten up a tad earlier, but he got up within time and the ref seemed to start waving as soon as he saw him getting up. He rushed it purposely.

There's always some leeway with the count. If the dude looks like he's ready to go, he should be given the benefit of the doubt.

[Jam Jars]

I didn't see the fight in real time but just watched the "stoppage". Definite bull****. Bey definitely should have played it safe and gotten up a tad earlier, but he got up within time and the ref seemed to start waving as soon as he saw him getting up. He rushed it purposely.

There's always some leeway with the count. If the dude looks like he's ready to go, he should be given the benefit of the doubt.

He didn't look like he was ready to go because he took too long getting up. You don't wait until 9 if you're "ready to go".