When did the "10 count" become the 9 count?

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  • Porter's Dad
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    #101
    Originally posted by crold1
    Terrible job.
    Par for the course with British referees. I've said it already but Team Kovalev better be 100% prepared for what they are getting themselves into for the Cleverley fight.

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    • crold1
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      #102
      Originally posted by Garcia's Dad
      Par for the course with British referees. I've said it already but Team Kovalev better be 100% prepared for what they are getting themselves into for the Cleverley fight.
      Both are good fighters. That should be a good scrap. Don't think this was a hometown thing...ref just got a little excited. Human error.

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      • Hitman932
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        #103
        Originally posted by crold1
        Both are good fighters. That should be a good scrap. Don't think this was a hometown thing...ref just got a little excited. Human error.
        A little excited?

        Seriously? I guess I am not surprised as boxing journalists tend to be afraid to be too critical of anyone in fear of losing a connection somewhere down the road.

        If you are a referee and you never start to say "10" out loud you know that you cannot stop the fight. He never even finished saying 9.

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        • PACnPBFsuck
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          #104
          The metric system is all screwed up, not surprised.

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          • Porter's Dad
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            #105
            Originally posted by crold1
            Both are good fighters. That should be a good scrap. Don't think this was a hometown thing...ref just got a little excited. Human error.
            I like both guys, it's going to be a terrific fight, though I can pretty much guarantee the referee will do a shoddy job.

            Also, what happened tonight was no human error. British referees are institutionally cheats - time and time again we see things like tonight. I know the hometown thing goes on everywhere but nowhere as egregiously as here. British fighters have to practically be killed before a fight is stop, yet if a foreign fighter is in a modicum of trouble, the fight gets stopped.

            Kovalev better have got remunerated well to have chosen to come here cos he is going to be up against 2 men in that ring.

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            • crold1
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              #106
              Originally posted by Hitman932
              A little excited?

              Seriously? I guess I am not surprised as boxing journalists tend to be afraid to be too critical of anyone in fear of losing a connection somewhere down the road.

              If you are a referee and you never start to say "10" out loud you know that you cannot stop the fight. He never even finished saying 9.
              Lose access to what? GTFO...I just think sometimes human error is more likely than a conspiracy theory approach. The ref blew the call...hard for him to know ahead of time and formulate "I can screw this guy on a 9 count."

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              • The Hammer
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                #107


                Tony Grano ‏@granoboxing
                Every pro fighter knows if you go down you have until the count of 8 to get up if you let the count get to 9 the ref is going to stop it.

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                • Weebler I
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by crold1
                  Terrible job.
                  The ref was out by a whole half-second on a downed fighter, not a hanging offence imo. Lebedev v Jones...now that was a terrible job.

                  Scott on the other hand, if he really wanted to continue (and I'm sceptical) needs to look at himself and ask why he stayed down so long.

                  His trainer was screaming "he was up on 8", when in reality he wasn't up until 9 and a bit.

                  This short piece sums it up for me:

                  If his physical condition suggested Scott was in a position to continue his body language unquestionably said the opposite. Even Chisora appeared surprised at the stoppage but tellingly the strongest outrage came from his trainer Jesse Reid and not the fighter himself.
                  Last edited by Weebler I; 07-20-2013, 10:17 PM.

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                  • !! Anorak
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                    #109
                    Cliff, did you not think Scott was being "Green Teefed" all night, though? Every rough exchange saw the ref warning him, but never The Chisel.

                    The most annoying thing is we never got to see how the fight would have turned out.

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                    • crold1
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by !! Anorak
                      Cliff, did you not think Scott was being "Green Teefed" all night, though? Every rough exchange saw the ref warning him, but never The Chisel.

                      The most annoying thing is we never got to see how the fight would have turned out.
                      Haven't seen the whole thing yet. Just YouTube for the last round.

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