Was I The Only One Impressed By Broner?

[FerFAL]

Yes, you are. Broner ******.

[-DSG-]

Paulie won that fight! You don't win a prize fight throwing 30 punches a round.

[The Big Dunn]

you know, i looked at that matchup like 'ok, im gonna root for Paulie but if this kid is what his fans make him out to be, he's gonna whoop ass...time to show me something'


instead, i saw a befuddled Broner in the early rounds that was getting tagged...pitty pat punches but punches that were losing him rounds


and when Paulie started to gas and slow down, i thought 'ok, this is the part where Broner impresses me'

it never happened...i've seen Paulie in bigger trouble against Cotto and Hatton who i dont think are elite and Broner couldn't even dent a past prime Paulie


i'm just afraid now that, since he couldn't be impressive (outside of DLT, of course) that Haymon and co might not wanna put him in there against too much risk

other than rooting for paulie I felt the exact same way-I was waiting for something from broner.

i agree with new england-he's being groomed for the next big money floyd fight. broner's comments about not wanting floyd to lose (i liked that actually) etc. are the beginning of the slow build.

but he didn't wow me at all.

[~AK49~]

Well no ****, he's fighting guys his own size now instead cutting massive weight and beating up on smaller guys. He didn't look soft, he looked solid and built for the division. Broner probably walks around at a heavier weight than mayweather......think about that for a sec.


Nothing about that victory was impressive, in the sense that he fell way short of expectations. He's fighting guys his own size now, and his perceived superhuman strength (because he was beating up on smaller guys) got exposed to reality.

[DLT]

you're talking to somebody who pretty regularly supports a fighter being moved slowly. ask around. i am not some fanboy of matthysse, or anybody else. jermain taylor, maybe.

adrian broner is in his prime, with a fully developed pro style. moving him slowly now has nothing to do with his development. i can assure you, that is not what erik gomez and haymon think about when they match him now. it's all about money in the long term, and nothing else.

danny garica isn't enough to get adrian broner to leave 140. he would bring more money to the table than matthysse. they could have that fight in brooklyn and do big gate numbers.


prior to this fight i was saying that the move to 147 wasn't a duck, because i felt broner would be taking hard fights after. he's very blatantly brushed off lucas matthysse. you don't do that if you're looking at him as a potential opponent. you do that if the guy really sucks and brings nothing, or you want to degrade a guy who is very good and a viable opponent. they won't take that fight unless they're literally forced into it.


it's my opinion that broner is being combed as a mayweather opponent (similar but not identical to the manner in which they groomed berto.) he won't take many hard fights until then. marcos maidana is not a hard fight. if that's a step up for a prime, top earner that is a problem. the hard, realistic fights were at 140, and he didn't take them.

he's at the right weight now for floyd. he has an alphabet belt. they're fighting for the same network. they're working for the same promotor and manager, who would be willing to put his fighters in with each other. haymon would make 30% of both sides of that fight. it would probably be an eight figure payday for him, with the winner tied up in a contract.

no way. Ive been around both of those guys together and there is no way in hell they are fighting unless they have some freaking Floyd/50 cent type breakup.

I disagree about the Lucas thing because you assumed he ducked the division and I dont. I wouldnt be shocked if he fights there next or his next 2 or 3 fights are there. Just because you take 1 fight doesnt mean you cant do something else. Pac was at LW, fought Oscar at 147, and then fought Hatton at 140 in the next fight.

Just because he goes to WW doesnt mean he will stay there. Sure maybe he did see something in Paulie but so what. His career doesnt end there. He has to fight again soon and most likely it will either be Maidana at WW or someone else at 140-WW.

Even if it is a duck, I dont mind all the time. Fans get to caught up in that. What if they see it as a hard matchup and say "we will fight him but give AB 2 or 3 more fights 1st"? Is that so bad? Its like Chavez Jr. not wanting to fight Sergio. He wasnt ready at all. He had a B.S. title but he clearly wasnt ready. However, 3 fights later he looked a ton better, was ready, and took the fight.

The same could happen with Broner. If he was 30 then it would be a duck but I dont mind someone saying that we should wait a couple of fights. Not so that Lucas loses but just so that we get more experinced and are ready. I mean someone like Maidana could be seen as the perfect tuneup/ set up match to Lucas. Nothing wrong with going those routes 1st to me. I dont consider that a duck

[DLT]

Well no ****, he's fighting guys his own size now instead cutting massive weight and beating up on smaller guys. He didn't look soft, he looked solid and built for the division. Broner probably walks around at a heavier weight than mayweather......think about that for a sec.


Nothing about that victory was impressive, in the sense that he fell way short of expectations. He's fighting guys his own size now, and his perceived superhuman strength (because he was beating up on smaller guys) got exposed to reality.

him being bigger than Floyd says alot more abotu Floyd's greatness than it does Broner being a fraud. People act like dude got dominated. I just dont get it. Also, dont sleep on the power just yet. Give him one more fight against a guy who will allow him to deliver his power like he wants and then we can judge. Either way, he doesnt need to be Tyson. He has enough boxing skill to he only needs moderate power to still give guys a hard itme

[The Big Dunn]

Im not saying I agree or disagree with what you said but lets just say youre right. So! Just because you arent the best fighter of this generation and probably the guy who is going to be the best of the next generation in Ward doesnt mean that you still wont be elite or a very good fighter. There is nothing wrong with not being as good as 2 of the best who we might ever see

I'm with you its just that broner had a real chance to make an impression like floyd did with gatti. Instead, he showed poor footwork and holes in his defense that could be exploited.

[Jc8804]

Paulie didnt move as much this time around.
He was there in front of broner talking with him and jabbing his face.
Broner shakes his head an say nope.lol
Thats like slapping. Someone in their face
And that person said " i let you bch slap me" ?????
Paulie kinda had his way with adrien.

[~AK49~]

him being bigger than Floyd says alot more abotu Floyd's greatness than it does Broner being a fraud.

Agreed. Could you imagine if Floyd was picking on the guys in the 130-140 divisions...

I'm not saying broner a fraud. He's a good fighter who can won a lot of fights against certain individuals. Just saying, his time when he gets beat on will come. We were exposed to a glimpse of where he really stands in the mix of things.

People act like dude got dominated. I just dont get it. Also, dont sleep on the power just yet. Give him one more fight against a guy who will allow him to deliver his power like he wants and then we can judge. Either way, he doesnt need to be Tyson. He has enough boxing skill to he only needs moderate power to still give guys a hard itme

Its not so much people thinking he got dominated, but the fact of the matter....he was in a split decision vs an older/declining malignaggi. Malignaggi is definitely very skilled, but he's getting older and his legs aren't what they used to be. It was a handpicked featherfisted opponent for broner, and he looked less than impressive to say the least. He got the victory, but wasn't impressive in doing so.

[Fetta]

I was impressed with his D. Much better than i thought. You can see ge gas speed and skill but is flat footed but his D makes up for it. People saying he easy to hit but he wasnt